by dansautos » Tue Apr 28, 2009 1:12 am
I actually am not kidding about the date and location thing. I do know that anyone can stick a date and location for any sig they put up for sale, but I believe that they have not done so. While I disagree with putting up TTMs as "authentic" and that putting up IP vids is deceptive, I do think their IP stuff is legit. All the questionable stuff on their site (i.e. looks like TTM, forgery) does NOT have information on where it was obtained, meaning perhaps it is from consignment or they bought from another dealer? I looked at the eBay feedback and it looks like mostly the negatives were from people who got preprints because they didn't read the listing carefully enough? In summary, here are my thoughts:
1. Selling TTM's as "authentic" and posting "proof" video for it is deceptive
2. Their IPs, when stated clearly as such with info on where it was obtained, actually are excellent matches to real IPs, from the form of the signature to the speed/direction/etc., and as their proof videos show, they actually are out there obtaining autographs on the street
3. Whether or not you would buy from a dealer with such practices (see #1) is another question
4. Personally, I would only buy items clearly listed as being obtained IP by them personally, and not just any "handsigned" item for sale which may have been bought by them from someone else or obtained TTM
Doc Holiday wrote:dansautos wrote:They seem to have a mix of TTM and IP's. The IP's they have listed have a date and location where it was obtained. I would stick to buying those and get the TTM ones yourself. Good luck!
Your kidding right? Anybody can list a date and location regarding an autograph. Their signing videos are a joke. When they were on ebay(
http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.d ... llFeedback)their listings was a joke, a mixture of TTM and blatant forgeries they claimed to be IP. Anybody who takes their autographs as comparisons to being authentic is insane. You heard it here, if you choose to disregard what I say that's fine. Don't cry when you purchase from then and find out it's not authentic.
I actually am not kidding about the date and location thing. I do know that anyone can stick a date and location for any sig they put up for sale, but I believe that they have not done so. While I disagree with putting up TTMs as "authentic" and that putting up IP vids is deceptive, I do think their IP stuff is legit. All the questionable stuff on their site (i.e. looks like TTM, forgery) does NOT have information on where it was obtained, meaning perhaps it is from consignment or they bought from another dealer? I looked at the eBay feedback and it looks like mostly the negatives were from people who got preprints because they didn't read the listing carefully enough? In summary, here are my thoughts:
1. Selling TTM's as "authentic" and posting "proof" video for it is deceptive
2. Their IPs, when stated clearly as such with info on where it was obtained, actually are excellent matches to real IPs, from the form of the signature to the speed/direction/etc., and as their proof videos show, they actually are out there obtaining autographs on the street
3. Whether or not you would buy from a dealer with such practices (see #1) is another question
4. Personally, I would only buy items clearly listed as being obtained IP by them personally, and not just any "handsigned" item for sale which may have been bought by them from someone else or obtained TTM
[quote="Doc Holiday"][quote="dansautos"]They seem to have a mix of TTM and IP's. The IP's they have listed have a date and location where it was obtained. I would stick to buying those and get the TTM ones yourself. Good luck![/quote]
Your kidding right? Anybody can list a date and location regarding an autograph. Their signing videos are a joke. When they were on ebay(http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=toppix&ftab=AllFeedback)their listings was a joke, a mixture of TTM and blatant forgeries they claimed to be IP. Anybody who takes their autographs as comparisons to being authentic is insane. You heard it here, if you choose to disregard what I say that's fine. Don't cry when you purchase from then and find out it's not authentic.[/quote]
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