mothball wrote:
Well canadagraphs not the canagraphs on e-bay .
I hope I have your condescending permission to reply. Anonymity is taboo and highly irregular in a business.
I merely asked for your details and what credits you as as a mouthpeice. It is now obvious you have none.
You yet again assume which is typical of forum iwarriors who will not converse sensibly. All our photo proofs are legit and show the IP person who is known or the signer signing or holding the photo in question. Not like your worthless snaps with watermarks which you say are **** anyway. Free advertising would not enter your all assuming head
In the UK if you pay for a licensed photo and then pay for a signature it is your property, so what planet are you from. No one queeries your items because I doubt if you sell much. After all anoninimty spells distrust to most.
Myself and Ip friends do well being known and it also often helps.
You obviously can never be wrong and will continue to assume everything as usual instead of talking to someone to find out, as would any ethical person.
Our company are not answerable to self proclaimed experts/NON such as yourself so I draw this conversation to an finale.
I am still waiting for your details but then of course you prefer to hide behind the keyboard.
MICHAEL
Nothing to hide.
PS why do you not VERO the e-bay canadagraphs or are you not a legit registered business. But merely a chancer.
Even if you didnt have my permission, you would still run your mouth...so what difference does it really make?
Anonymity is far from taboo in THIS business, its actually the staple of the industry. Perfect example happened just 2-3 hrs ago here. A player on a team in town has a disliking for a hound here. Has had the disliking since almost the beginning of his pro career. He has gone out of his way to sign for everyone but this guy on several occasions. Today, he did it again, and told him "you got me last time" which, despite being true, was also true of everyone else down there as well. It is reasons like that why most hounds try not to be recognized... like me.
What credits me as a mouthpiece is actually a partially different list than what credits me as an autograph analyst. Its only obvious to YOU...because you dont like me pointing out the fact that your "company" has SOME fake items. Everytime I have caught a faker, every single one of them is as outraged and full of threats as you have been. If you really like, I could get 3 or 4 other hounds, with more than 70 years of hounding between them to come in here & back up what I said about your items. These arent frivolous assumptions on my behalf. I dont comment on autographs I dont know. I dont comment on autographs I have only gotten once. The people I commented on, were people I have gotten MANY times, in MANY situations. Everything IS an opinion when it comes to autograph analysis. But the opinions are still derived from a plethora of analysis based on lots of knowledge of the subject in hand.
I actually laugh at the "forum warrior" moniker, because again, as I stated before. Anyone who has met me will tell you I have called forgers out to their faces & tell people often what I think of them, whether its positive or not to their faces. I am not a very filtered person in person either...so the internet persona you think I have is actually me being me.
Sensibly? I dare say, I am one of the most sensible people there is when I am debating with people. I rarely say/post something without following it up with a vast selection of facts & details on how I came to the conclussion I am stating. Lack of sense is something few, if anyone (outside of you) has ever claimed when reading what I have to say.
You SAY all your photos are legit...just like any forger does as well. I went thru several dozen of your auctions, saw ZERO proof pics, so congrats on catching yourself in a full on BS lie.
My "worthless" proofs are not meant to be any form of undeniable evidence of any specific items authenticity. It is to be a proof to viewers that I have been there, in the celebs pressence, and took a photo of them signing to show they were indeed signing autographs while I was there. I am a 1 person business here. So I dont have a network of hound slike you to proof my items while I get them signed. Actually, apparently you dont either..since none of your items have proofs, or exact proofs or any proof of any type. Just sayin. At least when people come to MY site, they know I have actually met the celeb...where as, you show nothing validating your claims.
Theres the thing. IF you apy for a licensed item & pay for the sig, then yes, its YOUR property. However, like 99.99% of the celeb hounding world, you DONT pay for licensed photos (as someone that has worked on that side of the game, I know what the licensing rights cost on movie stills & photoshoot stills....you are definitely not paying it) nor the graphs either. So, no, you actually DO NOT own the rights to those items. Its why companies like Getty Images and Maxim/Stuff Magazine have often had items pulled off ebay...because they own the rights.
you would really be surprised what I sell. I sell about 70% of my items before they even hit a scanner. The stuff getting to my site is the stuff I wasnt able to immediately sell thru pre-selling.
One fact I can agree with you on. SOMETIMES being known helps. But, its far more often a hindrance.
I actually AM rarely wrong. I'm not always right, but, the vast majority of cases, I am right. I am a know it all prick....who actually backs it up. WHEN I am wrong, I say it. Why would I talk to you about it?? So you can concoct a scenario that COULD seem plausable to SOME people to tell me on why you have items from people that look nothing like their graph?? I cant be bothered to listen to BS. Again, the irony of YOU calling out anyones ethics is laughable at the least.
Of course your company doesnt answer to anyone. Why would they? That would mean that you would admit there is the possibility one of your posse are slipping in fakes amongst their real items. It would mean you would have to admit that YOU cant actually be SURE of every items authenticity, since you didnt get them all.
My details are in this very topic. I know my stuff, you have a fake Adams, Padalecki & Pattinson (or 12). Those are facts.
Vero is junk. Thats why. Several forgers have passed them, and at least 2 real people I have known of have failed them. They are less reliable than the peon who you trust thats handing you fakes.
Anyways, some of us actually have hounding to do today....so, I will let you stew in your shame now.
We'll see if you are a man of your word or not.
[quote="mothball"]:) Well canadagraphs not the canagraphs on e-bay .
I hope I have your condescending permission to reply. Anonymity is taboo and highly irregular in a business.
I merely asked for your details and what credits you as as a mouthpeice. It is now obvious you have none.
You yet again assume which is typical of forum iwarriors who will not converse sensibly. All our photo proofs are legit and show the IP person who is known or the signer signing or holding the photo in question. Not like your worthless snaps with watermarks which you say are **** anyway. Free advertising would not enter your all assuming head
In the UK if you pay for a licensed photo and then pay for a signature it is your property, so what planet are you from. No one queeries your items because I doubt if you sell much. After all anoninimty spells distrust to most.
Myself and Ip friends do well being known and it also often helps.
You obviously can never be wrong and will continue to assume everything as usual instead of talking to someone to find out, as would any ethical person.
Our company are not answerable to self proclaimed experts/NON such as yourself so I draw this conversation to an finale.
I am still waiting for your details but then of course you prefer to hide behind the keyboard.
MICHAEL
Nothing to hide.
PS why do you not VERO the e-bay canadagraphs or are you not a legit registered business. But merely a chancer. :roll:[/quote]
Even if you didnt have my permission, you would still run your mouth...so what difference does it really make?
Anonymity is far from taboo in THIS business, its actually the staple of the industry. Perfect example happened just 2-3 hrs ago here. A player on a team in town has a disliking for a hound here. Has had the disliking since almost the beginning of his pro career. He has gone out of his way to sign for everyone but this guy on several occasions. Today, he did it again, and told him "you got me last time" which, despite being true, was also true of everyone else down there as well. It is reasons like that why most hounds try not to be recognized... like me.
What credits me as a mouthpiece is actually a partially different list than what credits me as an autograph analyst. Its only obvious to YOU...because you dont like me pointing out the fact that your "company" has SOME fake items. Everytime I have caught a faker, every single one of them is as outraged and full of threats as you have been. If you really like, I could get 3 or 4 other hounds, with more than 70 years of hounding between them to come in here & back up what I said about your items. These arent frivolous assumptions on my behalf. I dont comment on autographs I dont know. I dont comment on autographs I have only gotten once. The people I commented on, were people I have gotten MANY times, in MANY situations. Everything IS an opinion when it comes to autograph analysis. But the opinions are still derived from a plethora of analysis based on lots of knowledge of the subject in hand.
I actually laugh at the "forum warrior" moniker, because again, as I stated before. Anyone who has met me will tell you I have called forgers out to their faces & tell people often what I think of them, whether its positive or not to their faces. I am not a very filtered person in person either...so the internet persona you think I have is actually me being me.
Sensibly? I dare say, I am one of the most sensible people there is when I am debating with people. I rarely say/post something without following it up with a vast selection of facts & details on how I came to the conclussion I am stating. Lack of sense is something few, if anyone (outside of you) has ever claimed when reading what I have to say.
You SAY all your photos are legit...just like any forger does as well. I went thru several dozen of your auctions, saw ZERO proof pics, so congrats on catching yourself in a full on BS lie.
My "worthless" proofs are not meant to be any form of undeniable evidence of any specific items authenticity. It is to be a proof to viewers that I have been there, in the celebs pressence, and took a photo of them signing to show they were indeed signing autographs while I was there. I am a 1 person business here. So I dont have a network of hound slike you to proof my items while I get them signed. Actually, apparently you dont either..since none of your items have proofs, or exact proofs or any proof of any type. Just sayin. At least when people come to MY site, they know I have actually met the celeb...where as, you show nothing validating your claims.
Theres the thing. IF you apy for a licensed item & pay for the sig, then yes, its YOUR property. However, like 99.99% of the celeb hounding world, you DONT pay for licensed photos (as someone that has worked on that side of the game, I know what the licensing rights cost on movie stills & photoshoot stills....you are definitely not paying it) nor the graphs either. So, no, you actually DO NOT own the rights to those items. Its why companies like Getty Images and Maxim/Stuff Magazine have often had items pulled off ebay...because they own the rights.
you would really be surprised what I sell. I sell about 70% of my items before they even hit a scanner. The stuff getting to my site is the stuff I wasnt able to immediately sell thru pre-selling.
One fact I can agree with you on. SOMETIMES being known helps. But, its far more often a hindrance.
I actually AM rarely wrong. I'm not always right, but, the vast majority of cases, I am right. I am a know it all prick....who actually backs it up. WHEN I am wrong, I say it. Why would I talk to you about it?? So you can concoct a scenario that COULD seem plausable to SOME people to tell me on why you have items from people that look nothing like their graph?? I cant be bothered to listen to BS. Again, the irony of YOU calling out anyones ethics is laughable at the least.
Of course your company doesnt answer to anyone. Why would they? That would mean that you would admit there is the possibility one of your posse are slipping in fakes amongst their real items. It would mean you would have to admit that YOU cant actually be SURE of every items authenticity, since you didnt get them all.
My details are in this very topic. I know my stuff, you have a fake Adams, Padalecki & Pattinson (or 12). Those are facts.
Vero is junk. Thats why. Several forgers have passed them, and at least 2 real people I have known of have failed them. They are less reliable than the peon who you trust thats handing you fakes.
Anyways, some of us actually have hounding to do today....so, I will let you stew in your shame now.
We'll see if you are a man of your word or not.
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