Your thinking might be correct RobertaRight! This seems to be quite logical. But if I'm trying to forge a sig I don't practise the handwriting. You practise more likely the sig, don't you.
And thank you for your support {up} (The second link doesn't work)

@ Drwho: I've never left a comment on a Messi auto (I think). Only Milan. You must have confused me with another person, as I would NEVER say that you are a joke. I'm not so primitive. (Check out my posts if you want)

And it would be great, if we could keep it not personal {up}

You can't base it off the word "with", which looks to be very simple anyway. I could make a great copy of the word "with" and you'd think it was real, wouldn't you?

And actually, it was Messi. I remember vividly you saying "If you think Barca send secs, then you're a joke". Guess the joke's on you now.

Then the somebody who wrote the signature managed to pull off details like very similar handwriting, flow and signing habits, as well as the loopy "t" in Elton, but was dumb enough to write the capitals completely different. It looks to me like he more "wrote his name" rather than made his stylized signature in joined handwriting. Which is weird, too, of course.

What puzzles me is: if you forge a signature and are aware of the details, you probably are familiar with what the sig mostly looks like. So you´d try to make it look like that, and not write capitals obviously differently, right? I would expect forgery - of someone familiar with - to be vice versa - look like, but differ in details.

Correct me if I am wrong, I am not here to argue, I would love to learn.

..............
More input: (I do not know how reliable the sites are, OK)

http://www.autographexamples.com/john%20elton.htm

The 2nd one, ehh?

weird E, but still round J

http://image03.webshots.com/3/7/24/60/23472460YIjxzaXWCx_fs.jpg

Thanks for your help!
Well about my "Barca blinkers":
Firstly it was Milan, and secondly it was 2 years ago. I was a complete newbie on this site and didn't know much about autograph collecting.
If you feel bad on this thing I will say sorry to you :lol:
I was a 13 years old boy, who was hoping that his autos were real... they were not, so i made a mistake. I'm still learning and someday I hope that will reach the level your inexhaustible intellect. :mrgreen:

have a nice day,
Phil

Ps.: Keep your comments come (the others) ;-)
And whats about the handwriting http://img830.imageshack.us/i/img0320a.jpg/ ???

Bad fake.

Authentics:
[img]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_wYppJQ3q9jQ/RxGcsULWjwI/AAAAAAAAAIc/qW_l0ZPamtI/s320/eltonjohnautograph.jpg[/img]
[img]http://thesahara.info/beatles/lennon_elton.jpg[/img]
[img]http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/0/0/5/4/9/3/webimg/424336322_tp.jpg[/img]

Your one:
[img]http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/2009/eltonjohnm.jpg[/img]

Notice any differences? The J is signed completely different, I've seen several authentic Elton Johns and never ever seen him do the "pointy" J like that. If it was rushed it would still be consistent (quicker to sign one smooth line than 3 jointed bits?). The E is also completely different. Don't fool yourself, this is an obvious fake and just because you have your Barca blinkers on doesn't make it real.

[quote="Nicksportsautographs"]The signature isn't authentic, and doesn't match anything close, even the handwriting. You can't say the signature was rushed when someone took the time to print his name. That is just not thinking clearly.[/quote]


I know your opinion, just want to hear some others.

The signature isn't authentic, and doesn't match anything close, even the handwriting. You can't say the signature was rushed when someone took the time to print his name. That is just not thinking clearly.

Hey Greg,

thanks for your reply.
Well, I thought the same, because in all other examples the J is without a "-" on the top.
But what makes me a bit hopefuller is the dedication as it seems to be kind of his handwriting.
Have a look on this dedication http://img830.imageshack.us/i/img0320a.jpg/ it looks nearly the same. Especially the "with".

Just my thought ;-)

Waiting for your email man :)


Best,
Phil

Sorry Phil but in my opinion, I do not think this is an authentic Elton John auto. As you know, 99 percent of my autos are music and Elton is one that I would love to add to my collection. In all my examples and research on his autograph, I believe yours to be secretarial. In all the examples I have, the 2 consistent characteristics in his sig have been the E in Elton and the J in John. Your E and J are so different from any known examples. There are other issues I have with it but the E and the J stand out.
Sorry I have been out of touch, I will email you about BM in a day or so ;-)