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Re: what does JSA mean?

by Dobbie » Sun Sep 11, 2011 3:36 pm

woa,

Im assuming you are referring to the 600,000 counterfeit cards.
Here is a link:
http://www.examiner.com/international-a ... eit-claims
Here is another link discussed on blowoutcards:
http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/news ... onami.html

Re: what does JSA mean?

by woa » Sun Sep 11, 2011 5:21 am

Hey Dobbie,
Can you please post a link to the Upper Deck story so we can all read abut it?

Thanks!

M

Re: what does JSA mean?

by vjw0307 » Sat Sep 10, 2011 1:23 pm

yea, some of their stuff is pricey...I won't buy their top tier stuff but every now and then they have great sales. I bought 2 "imperfect" Hank Aaron baseballs for less than $40 each...one looks perfect...the other is a little faded but still...they are authentic Aarons. Also bought a Curt Schilling and David Ortiz signed ball for $20 each...both steiner certified.

Re: what does JSA mean?

by ultimateager » Sat Sep 10, 2011 3:32 am

vjw0307 wrote: Lately, most of what I've been buying is Steiner...I'm 100% with Steiner. Great company in my opinion.
Steiner is pretty pricey, but for sports memorabilia they are right there with Upper Deck Authentics. Steiner's quality rates right up there with UDA especially their baseball stuff.

Re: what does JSA mean?

by vjw0307 » Fri Sep 09, 2011 8:59 pm

I understand the convo above about Beckham, but I'd feel pretty strong about purchasing something from UD...especially a Jordan or Woods. The PSA or JSA are just opinions but definitely makes me feel better when buying something on ebay. I don't buy anything on ebay without some sort of certification. Lately, most of what I've been buying is Steiner...I'm 100% with Steiner. Great company in my opinion.

Re: what does JSA mean?

by Dobbie » Fri Sep 09, 2011 8:25 pm

Beckham was not on the sell sheet as an auto hit card, just a base card.
That is why I am amazed to see on the back of this Beckham "autograph" it clearly mentions his name on it and that it was signed specifically by him.....bizarre!
Regarding others out there, Im not sure if there were anymore errors in this set but it would hardly srprise me if there were :D

Re: what does JSA mean?

by ultimateager » Fri Sep 09, 2011 5:51 pm

Yes Upper Deck had massive layoffs which is why a lot of workers got mad before they were unemployed... but I don't think anyone would do that on perpose.

That particular card was most likely indeed on the sell sheet (listed as one of the possible hits) but they either couldn't afford to pay Mr. Beckham to sign them or he was unwilling/unable to sign for that particular card... So the card was made but the stickers were not signed for it. It makes me believe that somehow that card was slipped in...

Do you know if there are more of that same error card out there? It would be interesting to see.

That being said... whether its PSA/JSA/Upper Deck etc etc... do some research before forking over $325 on any autograph lol. If you are going to spend that kind of $$ it doesn't hurt to do a little research yourself. People are people and they make mistakes. McWilliam from UD is a liar but not the entire company.

Re: what does JSA mean?

by Dobbie » Fri Sep 09, 2011 4:04 pm

ultimateager wrote:I am sure UD would fix the problem if the person who owned that card reported it.

Mistakes happen and stickers are put on the wrong card. I've seen it happen a couple times. If you notice it, you can contact UD and they will replace your error card.

And I was more or less talking about UDA items not cards. Mistakes are made on cards a lot because they are mostly sent from the athlete. UDA items are signed infront of representatives from UD. Any Jersey, Ball, Photo, etc. with UDAuthentification is one of the best out there... like it or not.

If you want to talk about the integrity of UD sports cards and others (razor, topps, fleer) then thats a whole other topic... because there is really no integrity in sports cards anymore

Fair enough,
Perhaps other items would be a lot more legit as opposed to their cards.
Unfortunately UD refuse to aknowledge their mistake regarding this card as they say that it must have been a disgruntled employer that made these items as there was no Beckham autographs included in this set.
Imagine telling that to the poor individual that forked out $324 on ebay!
I do see your point though regarding signed shirts, helmets etc
Autographs can get mixed up when done on stickers and passed down to the offices I suppose.

Re: what does JSA mean?

by ultimateager » Fri Sep 09, 2011 3:30 pm

I am sure UD would fix the problem if the person who owned that card reported it.

Mistakes happen and stickers are put on the wrong card. I've seen it happen a couple times. If you notice it, you can contact UD and they will replace your error card.

And I was more or less talking about UDA items not cards. Mistakes are made on cards a lot because they are mostly sent from the athlete. UDA items are signed infront of representatives from UD. Any Jersey, Ball, Photo, etc. with UDAuthentification is one of the best out there... like it or not.

If you want to talk about the integrity of UD sports cards and others (razor, topps, fleer) then thats a whole other topic... because there is really no integrity in sports cards anymore

Re: what does JSA mean?

by Dobbie » Fri Sep 09, 2011 2:20 pm

ultimateager wrote:about UD are you serious bro? yea McWilliam has done some shady stuff in the past (especially the griffey rc) and the yu-gi oh stuff but if i wanted a michael jordan autograph or tiger woods autograph (2 of the most faked autos in sports) i would pony up the cash and buy from UD no 2nd thoughts about it.

not only is the quality of the UDA stuff 2nd to NONE, all of their UDA stuff is signed infront of somebody. you also get the COA with matching serial numbers to avoid fakes.
Care to explain why they would have fake David Beckham autographs in their recent world of sports boxes then?
Love how they state on the back of each card is sent directly to Upper Deck by David Beckham and that this certificate expressly warrants the authenticity of the depicted athlete's signature.....Beckham should
sue their asses!
He has NEVER signed for UD since his move to MLS soccer....absolute disgrace!
look into it if you dont believe me.
Here is the FAKE UPPER DECK CARD!
This is in FACT Emilio Luciano's auto and not Beckham's.
Comforting to know that UD certifies this as a Beckham auto on their card! {down}
Bear in mind that some poor bugger unbeknownst to this screw up paid $324.99 for this on ebay!
As for shady in the past, this product was releaed this year!
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