by Hartster » Sat Apr 19, 2014 11:26 pm
jason1980s wrote:We are also in the position to be disappointed but with that disappointment we must separate the actor's performance from their non-signing self. If someone watches Wizard and gets **** during the Lollipop scene, because Jerry didn't sign, they have personal problems greater than someone not signing for them.
As far as passing down autographs to kids, grandkids etc...I'd be more **** about getting secretarials. If you have fakes in your collection now, and don't figure it out before you die, they'll be passed down and if the kids don't care for autographs they'll be sold and the buyer will have received a fake.
True enough on the first part. I went to an event - granted, autographs were not guaranteed - where I asked this one astronaut for their autograph. Nice enough person, pleasant to talk to, but they don't sign. At all. Not through the mail, not in person, not for any amount of money. Did I yell and scream, "You SOB, I paid for your two flights on the shuttle so why don't you take my damn Sharpie and sign my effing book, you stupid jerk?" Did I say, "I hate NASA and the space program and am canceling my subscription to the NASA channel?"
No. I said, sincerely, "Well, thank you anyway for your time and for the talk." And walked away.
Maybe (and this is wishful thinking) that person will think, "Gee, that was pleasant enough. Maybe I will start signing autographs again." Because getting autographs is about the next person as much as it is about us. Make it easy and pleasant for them to sign, and they may keep on signing.
But that day I shrugged my shoulders and went on to my next person to get an autograph. Sure I was disappointed but I always prepare for the best and hope for the worst - always the opposite - so that when I do get an autograph, it's always a pleasant surprise.
And don't get me started on by mail autographs. I've lost plenty of photos from people who were supposedly good signers, including one whom I contacted by email and whom said, "Sure, send it in." That was a year ago and I still haven't gotten my photo back.
As for passing down autographs and future people buying fakes, not sure what much can be done about that. You can get to 99 percent and several decimal points certainty, but unless it was done in front of you, there's always the small, no matter how minute, percentage that it was a fake/secretarial/autopen. And once you get several people removed from the original signee, then that percentage increases. Some secretarials, like Avery Brooks', are easy enough to spot. Some autopens, like the NASA crew lithos that are done in gold or silver pens, are pretty convincing fakes.
[quote="jason1980s"]We are also in the position to be disappointed but with that disappointment we must separate the actor's performance from their non-signing self. If someone watches Wizard and gets **** during the Lollipop scene, because Jerry didn't sign, they have personal problems greater than someone not signing for them.
As far as passing down autographs to kids, grandkids etc...I'd be more **** about getting secretarials. If you have fakes in your collection now, and don't figure it out before you die, they'll be passed down and if the kids don't care for autographs they'll be sold and the buyer will have received a fake.[/quote]
True enough on the first part. I went to an event - granted, autographs were not guaranteed - where I asked this one astronaut for their autograph. Nice enough person, pleasant to talk to, but they don't sign. At all. Not through the mail, not in person, not for any amount of money. Did I yell and scream, "You SOB, I paid for your two flights on the shuttle so why don't you take my damn Sharpie and sign my effing book, you stupid jerk?" Did I say, "I hate NASA and the space program and am canceling my subscription to the NASA channel?"
No. I said, sincerely, "Well, thank you anyway for your time and for the talk." And walked away.
Maybe (and this is wishful thinking) that person will think, "Gee, that was pleasant enough. Maybe I will start signing autographs again." Because getting autographs is about the next person as much as it is about us. Make it easy and pleasant for them to sign, and they may keep on signing.
But that day I shrugged my shoulders and went on to my next person to get an autograph. Sure I was disappointed but I always prepare for the best and hope for the worst - always the opposite - so that when I do get an autograph, it's always a pleasant surprise.
And don't get me started on by mail autographs. I've lost plenty of photos from people who were supposedly good signers, including one whom I contacted by email and whom said, "Sure, send it in." That was a year ago and I still haven't gotten my photo back.
As for passing down autographs and future people buying fakes, not sure what much can be done about that. You can get to 99 percent and several decimal points certainty, but unless it was done in front of you, there's always the small, no matter how minute, percentage that it was a fake/secretarial/autopen. And once you get several people removed from the original signee, then that percentage increases. Some secretarials, like Avery Brooks', are easy enough to spot. Some autopens, like the NASA crew lithos that are done in gold or silver pens, are pretty convincing fakes.
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