ravens3333- I agree. I have often heard that about him and other people. Thanks.

NRC- Having an opinion does not make me "new." I may not have as much free time on my hands as you,though. It is easy for you to say it is fake, but we won't actually know. Given all of the facts and past successes, it leads me to believe it is real. But thanks for your input.

that isnt even close to ray's graph. "Who would sign it then?" clearly new to the hobby. the clubhouse guy, a secretary, an assistant, his wife, someone from his charity where the mail is forware\ded. ray uses a ghostsigner no doubt. that isnt even close to his graph at all. and it isnt just you, anyone who's ever gotten ray in the last couple years ttm got a ghostsigned item.

I know I am very late in posting this here but I know a lot about Ray Rice's signature and it is authentic. He can only sign his full name when he is at a signing event that you pay for because that is how it is in his contract and if he signs his full name TTM then he will get into trouble with his agent. So when he signs autographs for free he has to sign it RR 27. I hope this helps! Congrats on the signature!

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bigpapi- would you be able to pm a photo of it to compare? Did you meet him ip or ttm?

I think its real. TTM people have more time to sign and not sloppy when tons of people sticking stuff in front of you. I got Ray Rice and just a scribble R and no one would recognize it unless you were there. I know its him since I saw it, but no one would say it was real. If you sent in money I am sure he sent you something real.

Then who would sign it?? I mean, just because the autos a little different doesn't mean that its fake.....

yeah sorry but it is not real at all but like i said at least be happy that you got something back because like i said i never got anything back when i sent for him.

so its not real??

[quote="simontheasian"]Yeah I was asking if you wanted me to tell you if the auto was really or not. I am a huge Ravens fan and have gotten almost everyone on the team. First off almost off the the popular players on the Ravens never sign ttm because I have ask them during signings. Anyways I have meet Ray Rice couple of times and plus seen his auto many of times to know that the one you got is not even close to anyones (look on ebay also). I have seen even ones that he has rush on and look nothing like the one on the card you got. Really sorry to tell you that but at least you got something back because I have been sending to the team many times and never get anything back but I try anyways in hope of getting something back.[/quote]

Yeah his "R R" that he signs is completely off from his real signature. It is like whoever signed that didn't even know how he makes his R's. Really bad fake maybe signed by a volunteer.