Nammzi wrote:

rpbluesman wrote:Now, I have talked with him on a regular basis, and he is a great guy. I think that you all are making a bit too much of a big deal on him. I think that all that needs to be said is a PM to him about being blunt in his posts. I'll PM him and tell him. He seems to understand his wrongdoings, for lack of a better word, and he usually straightens up.

Daniel

I just thought that I would point out something =/ You may have talked to him on a regular bais and know that he is a nice guy, but the members who he is offending and getting aggressive towards haven't. They only see his aggressive side because a lot of the tie that is the only side that he shows.

Also, isn't Andy already a mod? Or an Autograph Collector? So, doen't he have access to this forum?

rpbluesman wrote:Now, I have talked with him on a regular basis, and he is a great guy. I think that you all are making a bit too much of a big deal on him. I think that all that needs to be said is a PM to him about being blunt in his posts. I'll PM him and tell him. He seems to understand his wrongdoings, for lack of a better word, and he usually straightens up.

Daniel

elmomommyto2 wrote:

I'm almost certain that most of us here will be against it.

I'm assuming from the way you phrased that that you wouldn't be voting in favor of him becoming a mod ?

Well, in all honestly, I feel like I've been beating a dead horse on my point...and like I said...my whole reason for starting this topic was just to let everyone know that I won't be handling any disputes/reports with Andy involved because I don't agree with him being allowed to cause the problems that he has. So, with that, I'll bow out on the conversation unless I can productively add something else.

I'm almost certain that most of us here will be against it.

elmomommyto2 wrote:

cernan wrote:
Look at whosurdaddy. Look at Rob. Andy is not the only one "getting a pass" here. We are pretty tolerant here. I can recall some other members getting banned, and they were far worse than Andy. (Aside from the spambots I mean.) I am aware that you are probably not going to change your mind about Andy but, I urge you to think of what would happen with Andy gone. We do not have the time or manpower to go around answering every single question. And if you don't mind me saying, most of the Junior Moderators are not that incredibly useful around the site.

JC

Hmmm...I was under the impression that whosurdaddy and rob don't cause problems around here on a daily basis like Andy does . I haven't even seen a post from whosurdaddy in ages. And rob is fairly harmless (and if I remember correctly, couldn't be banned because of an IP issue).

If I imagine this site without Andy, I imagine other members taking over where he's left off with regards to the limited benefit he's provided to the site with the AP and Sec. lists and all of the negativity he's brought would be gone.

I'll agree about the JMs...however I've always said that I don't like the JM system.

All that being said, I'd still love to know what will happen when Andy picks a fight with a moderator....who's side will everyone take then??? And if Andy's membership here is valued over that of a moderator, why isn't he made a moderator then?

cernan wrote:
Look at whosurdaddy. Look at Rob. Andy is not the only one "getting a pass" here. We are pretty tolerant here. I can recall some other members getting banned, and they were far worse than Andy. (Aside from the spambots I mean.) I am aware that you are probably not going to change your mind about Andy but, I urge you to think of what would happen with Andy gone. We do not have the time or manpower to go around answering every single question. And if you don't mind me saying, most of the Junior Moderators are not that incredibly useful around the site.

JC