[quote="nowandagain"][quote="ozzman"]
The only issue is, sometimes postmarks aren't very clear, or sometimes the post office seems to actually 'miss' postmarking an envelope (it happens sometimes).
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Not sure how often it happens for others, but strangely almost half my SASEs from the US come back un-postmarked recently. They used to almost always be postmarked. It seems foreign post offices are somewhat better about postmarking, as I've only gotten a few back without it.

I say then just lay it on the line that the poster must have the envelope or the post gets erased.

Haha, all my thoughts on this have been said already :D

[quote="nowandagain"]
The only issue is, sometimes postmarks aren't very clear, or sometimes the post office seems to actually 'miss' postmarking an envelope (it happens sometimes).[/quote]
Ditto. That happened to me a couple of times.

afem- your ideas are great, and they MAY work. Like Larisie said, though, many members tend to either ignore the rules or just refuse to read them, therefore no changes are made. I guess we can try and see how it all works out?

Good idea! I'm so tired of people just posting the photo and not the envelope.

agreed to both

[quote="ozzman"]Envelopes need to have the postmark shown because someone can take any envelope and pass it off.[/quote]

The only issue is, sometimes postmarks aren't very clear, or sometimes the post office seems to actually 'miss' postmarking an envelope (it happens sometimes).

Other than that, there should be more vigilance in terms of monitoring the successes posted, so that we may try and 'weed out' potential fakes.

The above suggestions are good, but won't solve the problems as anyone could simply just post any envelope or make up any dates etc.

nowandagain [rockon]

Personally, I believe having the rules posted isn't going to change in terms of ensuring members posting the correct and necessary things. I still have MANY members (and ones that post often) in the 'add/request a vv address' forum that don't follow the rules that are provided and have to constantly remind them. Those rules aren't even asking much of them...if anything the mods on that board are doing a heck of a lot more trying to find those members the addresses. Anyways, members posting on the VV feedback should already know what's needed of them, including sent and receive dates, photos if possible, etc.
While I do agree with what needs to be done about the envelope, I still think if that does get inforced members like "hockeyfan1994" will be able to get by or end up saying they threw their envelope in the trash since it didn't have a return address. :roll:

I do respect you trying to help out the mods in the vv feedback section and they are all very good ideas, personally I just don't see it working. Of course, it never hurts to try out these things. {up} It would definitely help Lizanne's list out too, I agree there!! :D

Larisie

exactly, and this way we can catch if the guy is lying or not. hockeyfan1994 plain refused to post the envelope, which means? fake...period

Envelopes need to have the postmark shown because someone can take any envelope and pass it off.

quite. If envelopes are enforced, we can see where the postmarks are from and then decifer if its fake or real. Banning and Deleting can always be done, but before that we can filter out those without envelope photos. Makes our life easier