HELP NEEDED TO IDENTIFY AN AUTOGRAPH - SPORTSMAN

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Re: HELP NEEDED TO IDENTIFY AN AUTOGRAPH - SPORTSMAN

by osiris » Thu Oct 21, 2010 8:01 am

packrat wrote:
osiris wrote: think Jaffer means...
It can also come from sloppy or non-existent record keeping.
While true, having a photo you don't recognise is less likely. Unless you, as a few people including yourself do, are collecting a series of autographs say on one show. You might be a huge fan of a particular show, so want to collect the lot, but maybe you're not a fan of a few certain actors. You might not recognise them.
YorkshirePaul wrote: i think it was a little unfair though to be cynical with me :cry: - i have not inherited it, or am i selling it - i re-discovered it, couldn't recognise the face or signature and simply asked for help. why would anyone see that as cynical though ?? i have recently started to list my successes to help other members - i will happily help anyone if i can :D
Please let me clarify, we are not suggesting you were cynical, don't worry, we were saying it is cynical of US to assume the worst. If someone cannot recognise a face, how much of a fan could they have been when they wrote? There are numerous reasons why this event could happen, completely innocent ones, many of which have been mentioned (another is perhaps the person is a radio star... or an actor that usually wears prosthetics, so you don't know their face), but human nature is to imagine the worst possible senario.

Re: HELP NEEDED TO IDENTIFY AN AUTOGRAPH - SPORTSMAN

by Tabby » Wed Oct 20, 2010 7:55 pm

YorkshirePaul wrote:
packrat wrote:
osiris wrote: think Jaffer means...
It can also come from sloppy or non-existent record keeping. I seldom have an autograph that I can't name since I keep track of everything in a spreadsheet and, if necessary, label everything. I put a slip of paper in the back of the toploader with the name of the autograph. Then when I come back to it a few months later and have a hard time remembering who it is, the paper comes out and a permanent Dymo label goes on the back. Sometimes I just assume I might forget who it is and slap a Dymo label on the back for safety's sake.
i truly wished i had not botherd to ask for genuine help with this topic - :cry: autograph collecting to me is all about the excitement of writing off / emailing to a celeb, i dont use spreadsheets to record successes, just my albums, im very happy to collect autographs and happy to help others in any way i can
don't feel that way. A LOT of people on this forum spend WAY too much time and effort into this hobby. People shouldn't make you regret asking for help. You don't owe anyone anything.

Re: HELP NEEDED TO IDENTIFY AN AUTOGRAPH - SPORTSMAN

by YorkshirePaul » Wed Oct 20, 2010 6:49 pm

if there is anyone from the admin of the site online could i ask you to please delete this post, thank you

Re: HELP NEEDED TO IDENTIFY AN AUTOGRAPH - SPORTSMAN

by YorkshirePaul » Wed Oct 20, 2010 6:47 pm

packrat wrote:
osiris wrote: think Jaffer means...
It can also come from sloppy or non-existent record keeping. I seldom have an autograph that I can't name since I keep track of everything in a spreadsheet and, if necessary, label everything. I put a slip of paper in the back of the toploader with the name of the autograph. Then when I come back to it a few months later and have a hard time remembering who it is, the paper comes out and a permanent Dymo label goes on the back. Sometimes I just assume I might forget who it is and slap a Dymo label on the back for safety's sake.
i truly wished i had not botherd to ask for genuine help with this topic - :cry: autograph collecting to me is all about the excitement of writing off / emailing to a celeb, i dont use spreadsheets to record successes, just my albums, im very happy to collect autographs and happy to help others in any way i can

Re: HELP NEEDED TO IDENTIFY AN AUTOGRAPH - SPORTSMAN

by packrat » Wed Oct 20, 2010 6:29 pm

osiris wrote: think Jaffer means...
It can also come from sloppy or non-existent record keeping. I seldom have an autograph that I can't name since I keep track of everything in a spreadsheet and, if necessary, label everything. I put a slip of paper in the back of the toploader with the name of the autograph. Then when I come back to it a few months later and have a hard time remembering who it is, the paper comes out and a permanent Dymo label goes on the back. Sometimes I just assume I might forget who it is and slap a Dymo label on the back for safety's sake.

Re: HELP NEEDED TO IDENTIFY AN AUTOGRAPH - SPORTSMAN

by YorkshirePaul » Wed Oct 20, 2010 5:07 pm

I think Jaffer means that when he sees a post like this, even if there is a valid reason (perhaps someone bought these in a random lot/inherited whatever and therefore doesn't know who the person is) he immediately (and cynically) imagines the person sending out letters just to get autographs, perhaps to sell. If one doesn't recognise someone, it suggests they only wrote to get the autograph and aren't really a fan of them at all. There are many reasons why someone might not recognise an autograph, but it's easy to imagine the worst in people.[/quote]

You put it much better then i did![/quote]

i think it was a little unfair though to be cynical with me :cry: - i have not inherited it, or am i selling it - i re-discovered it, couldn't recognise the face or signature and simply asked for help. why would anyone see that as cynical though ?? i have recently started to list my successes to help other members - i will happily help anyone if i can :D

Re: HELP NEEDED TO IDENTIFY AN AUTOGRAPH - SPORTSMAN

by Jaffer » Wed Oct 20, 2010 4:52 pm

osiris wrote:
YorkshirePaul wrote:
Jaffer wrote:I'm always baffled when people can't recognise a picture of someone they sent too :s makes me a tad cynical...

However,i thought it might have gbeen cricketer Alistair Cook,but the signature looks more like n joa....
cynical...........??????????????? do please explain that.... i simply couldnt identify the name - i got this a while ago, was recently sorting out some envelopes and re-discovered it. I simply thought i would take advantage of the many nice people on here to help me, and see if anyone recognised it as i couldnt.
I think Jaffer means that when he sees a post like this, even if there is a valid reason (perhaps someone bought these in a random lot/inherited whatever and therefore doesn't know who the person is) he immediately (and cynically) imagines the person sending out letters just to get autographs, perhaps to sell. If one doesn't recognise someone, it suggests they only wrote to get the autograph and aren't really a fan of them at all. There are many reasons why someone might not recognise an autograph, but it's easy to imagine the worst in people.
You put it much better then i did!

Re: HELP NEEDED TO IDENTIFY AN AUTOGRAPH - SPORTSMAN

by osiris » Wed Oct 20, 2010 3:56 pm

YorkshirePaul wrote:
Jaffer wrote:I'm always baffled when people can't recognise a picture of someone they sent too :s makes me a tad cynical...

However,i thought it might have gbeen cricketer Alistair Cook,but the signature looks more like n joa....
cynical...........??????????????? do please explain that.... i simply couldnt identify the name - i got this a while ago, was recently sorting out some envelopes and re-discovered it. I simply thought i would take advantage of the many nice people on here to help me, and see if anyone recognised it as i couldnt.
I think Jaffer means that when he sees a post like this, even if there is a valid reason (perhaps someone bought these in a random lot/inherited whatever and therefore doesn't know who the person is) he immediately (and cynically) imagines the person sending out letters just to get autographs, perhaps to sell. If one doesn't recognise someone, it suggests they only wrote to get the autograph and aren't really a fan of them at all. There are many reasons why someone might not recognise an autograph, but it's easy to imagine the worst in people.

Re: HELP NEEDED TO IDENTIFY AN AUTOGRAPH - SPORTSMAN

by YorkshirePaul » Wed Oct 20, 2010 8:43 am

Jaffer wrote:I'm always baffled when people can't recognise a picture of someone they sent too :s makes me a tad cynical...

However,i thought it might have gbeen cricketer Alistair Cook,but the signature looks more like n joa....
cynical...........??????????????? do please explain that.... i simply couldnt identify the name - i got this a while ago, was recently sorting out some envelopes and re-discovered it. I simply thought i would take advantage of the many nice people on here to help me, and see if anyone recognised it as i couldnt.

Re: HELP NEEDED TO IDENTIFY AN AUTOGRAPH - SPORTSMAN

by Jaffer » Wed Oct 20, 2010 8:16 am

I'm always baffled when people can't recognise a picture of someone they sent too :s makes me a tad cynical...

However,i thought it might have gbeen cricketer Alistair Cook,but the signature looks more like n joa....

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