No probs!

They've uploaded some more photo-"proof"- a screenshot of the footage from Sky Sports news where Robbie Keane signs for the young kids at Anfield after joining, and the footage they kept on replaying on Sky when Berbatov stopped his car to sign Spurs shirts the day leading to him signing for Manchester United.

joshh_911 wrote:

automan wrote:thank you very very much this is really helpful {thumb2} Sorry to be a pain and ask another question (last one I promise ) On the ballack shirt it is signed on the new Chelsea shirt. Did he used to sign like that when he was at Bayern Munich? Would you be able to find an example don't worry if this is too much

The official Bayern and Germany pre-prints (from the start of 2006) have the full "Michael Ballack"... But I've never seen him actually sign like that before: (sorry for poor quality, took a quick pic on cam)


TTM example: (traded with allhahaheehee)
http://josh.fotopic.net/p54012301.html

In-person example (signed over "Foot..." on crest)
http://josh.fotopic.net/p50594543.html

His recent TTMs via Chelsea have also been the short sig.


So if he almost never signs like that both IP and TTM (I've never seen an example like that recently which I can remember), the odds of them getting him to sign like that on this seasons Chelsea and Germany tops, and another on a single Chelsea top with the exact same signature must be pretty slim lol...

Thanks for this you have been amazingly helpful {thumb2} I have sent you a pm

automan wrote:thank you very very much this is really helpful {thumb2} Sorry to be a pain and ask another question (last one I promise ) On the ballack shirt it is signed on the new Chelsea shirt. Did he used to sign like that when he was at Bayern Munich? Would you be able to find an example don't worry if this is too much

The official Bayern and Germany pre-prints (from the start of 2006) have the full "Michael Ballack"... But I've never seen him actually sign like that before: (sorry for poor quality, took a quick pic on cam)


TTM example: (traded with allhahaheehee)
http://josh.fotopic.net/p54012301.html

In-person example (signed over "Foot..." on crest)
http://josh.fotopic.net/p50594543.html

His recent TTMs via Chelsea have also been the short sig.


So if he almost never signs like that both IP and TTM (I've never seen an example like that recently which I can remember), the odds of them getting him to sign like that on this seasons Chelsea and Germany tops, and another on a single Chelsea top with the exact same signature must be pretty slim lol...

thank you very very much this is really helpful {thumb2} Sorry to be a pain and ask another question (last one I promise ) On the ballack shirt it is signed on the new Chelsea shirt. Did he used to sign like that when he was at Bayern Munich? Would you be able to find an example don't worry if this is too much

automan wrote:thanks for the input. {thumb2} Could you give examples of the items that have an old style signature on a newer shirt for example?

Terry McDermott signing my photo- shown on Sky Sports News: (I'm wearing a Sonic t-shirt and blue hoodie):



"Photo-proof" shown on FA Premier Signings site:



Funny- seems a bit unusual that my screen-grab seems to be of the exact same footage, just they've whitened over my t-shirt...


The main examples I can see of old-style autographs are Michael Ballack, Phil Neville (on multi-Everton shirt), Jamie Carragher, Shaun Wright Phillips, Djibril Cisse (single Sunderland signed).

thanks for the input. {thumb2} Could you give examples of the items that have an old style signature on a newer shirt for example?

They are selling forged autographs, but they are very good. In fact too good, their autographs look like publicity photo autographs.

All of their retro shirts are made in the North-East at TOFFS, which is their downside. Many of the TOFFS shirts they have signed are not possible without a dedication (for example, Dalglish) or not at all (Bobby Charlton- will not sign a retro England shirt under any circumstance). Have a look at multi-signed replica '66 shirts and see how many you can find with Charlton on...

A number of their fakes look exceptionally good, but then just take a look at some multi-signed shirts like Man City and Arsenal. The Arsenal ones are a dead giveaway because they are based EXACTLY on the pre-print picture the club sends TTM.

All the balls are signed in the same pen lol, and all autographs match up from all items on sale... Not likely lol. Won't say which ones, but a lot of autographs on recent shirts are also "old" versions of autographs from at least a few years ago.

And right about the photo-proof, just screen-shots from interviews. On the Newcastle United photo-proof, there's a picture of Kevin Keegan and Terry McDermott in their car. Terry is looking down signing a photo... MY PHOTO! They've taken that screen-shot from Sky Sports News. I have the exact same screen-shot, with Sky Sports news frame... With me in it.

Apart from their terrible proof section/poor examples of autographs has there been any press releases about this company being forgers?
Where they banned from ebay or an I just imagining that!