Why are all of John Travolta's successes so hotly debated?

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Re: Why are all of John Travolta's successes so hotly debated?

by Nicksportsautographs » Mon Jul 26, 2010 7:45 pm

arrowsup wrote:
Nicksportsautographs wrote:
arrowsup wrote:here they go again!....its amazing. the very first post questions the authenticity....no congratulations, nothing except "its secretarial...."

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=183013&p=792862#p792862
Why not? How is it a congratulations when people receive a fake autograph? If nobody is going to stand up and tell these people that they received fake autographs, who is? This is quite funny though. Congrats on your fake autograph, you must be so happy! I mean really, this is an autograph forum, not a forum to help depressed people.
The point of my thread is to question why so many people want to express their opinion on Travolta's ttm successes. I am not interested in determing his authenticity, but I am curious as to why so many others are. The Travolta posts generate a great deal of passion on either side and that doesn't happen with other questionable successes (De Niro, Eastwood, and the rest) Why is that?
People express their opinions on everything, as they should. I really don't see it debated any heavier than another. People don't like to be told their autographs are fake.

Re: Why are all of John Travolta's successes so hotly debated?

by arrowsup » Mon Jul 26, 2010 7:04 pm

Nicksportsautographs wrote:
arrowsup wrote:here they go again!....its amazing. the very first post questions the authenticity....no congratulations, nothing except "its secretarial...."

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=183013&p=792862#p792862
Why not? How is it a congratulations when people receive a fake autograph? If nobody is going to stand up and tell these people that they received fake autographs, who is? This is quite funny though. Congrats on your fake autograph, you must be so happy! I mean really, this is an autograph forum, not a forum to help depressed people.
The point of my thread is to question why so many people want to express their opinion on Travolta's ttm successes. I am not interested in determing his authenticity, but I am curious as to why so many others are. The Travolta posts generate a great deal of passion on either side and that doesn't happen with other questionable successes (De Niro, Eastwood, and the rest) Why is that?

Re: Why are all of John Travolta's successes so hotly debated?

by Nicksportsautographs » Mon Jul 26, 2010 6:46 pm

arrowsup wrote:here they go again!....its amazing. the very first post questions the authenticity....no congratulations, nothing except "its secretarial...."

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=183013&p=792862#p792862
Why not? How is it a congratulations when people receive a fake autograph? If nobody is going to stand up and tell these people that they received fake autographs, who is? This is quite funny though. Congrats on your fake autograph, you must be so happy! I mean really, this is an autograph forum, not a forum to help depressed people.

Re: Why are all of John Travolta's successes so hotly debated?

by arrowsup » Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:57 pm

here they go again!....its amazing. the very first post questions the authenticity....no congratulations, nothing except "its secretarial...."

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=183013&p=792862#p792862

Re: Why are all of John Travolta's successes so hotly debated?

by margotchanning » Sat Jul 24, 2010 7:43 pm

Silverscrn wrote:Don't know the answer because I haven't looked at the debates, but as far as authenticity, is it possible that he has a stack of pre-signed photos that are sent out, or are people getting personalized messages and/or signed items that they send out?

Just curious.
Yeah I've seen personalised replies. Mine was personalised.

Re: Why are all of John Travolta's successes so hotly debated?

by WildChild96 » Sat Jul 24, 2010 3:38 pm

I have seen Travolta reply through movie sets, and some of them look very different if you compare them to the TTM's.

Re: Why are all of John Travolta's successes so hotly debated?

by Silverscrn » Sat Jul 24, 2010 2:40 pm

Don't know the answer because I haven't looked at the debates, but as far as authenticity, is it possible that he has a stack of pre-signed photos that are sent out, or are people getting personalized messages and/or signed items that they send out?

Just curious.

Re: Why are all of John Travolta's successes so hotly debated?

by Jaffer » Sat Jul 24, 2010 2:36 pm

arrowsup wrote:Without considering authenticity I am curious why Travolta posts always degenerate into debates without reason. Travolta has always been a generous signer IP, and he signs alot so his autos aren't valuable -- Why then do people have such passionate opinions on his ttm authenticity?

Many stars of his caliber have successes posted on these boards (Eastwood, De Niro, Redford, Striesand, etc...) and they may generate some debate, but it is short and civil as comapred to the Travolta posts. Does Travolta possess some star quality beyond what I can comprehend, what is it about Travolta that gets people so upset?
Very good question... Why Travolta?

Re: Why are all of John Travolta's successes so hotly debated?

by carlyscala » Sat Jul 24, 2010 5:32 am

arrowsup, i know exactly what you mean. people get very angry on here when they shouldn't. i think a lot of times its because people butt in when someone doesn't ask about authenticity and they're just happy with a reply...and because travolta's autographs ttm happy quite often we see these debates over and over again.

Re: Why are all of John Travolta's successes so hotly debated?

by Ryco11757 » Sat Jul 24, 2010 2:05 am

arrowsup wrote:
Ryco11757 wrote:Its a debate because nobody wants to hear the word "sec". they cry if they hear thier john travolta autograph is fake. "john" has to get thousands of autograph requests a day. he does have a family life and a work life. hes a very busy man. when his son died "john" was still sending out autographs. When John was in Haiti. "john" was still sending out autographs. i use to believe his TTM autographs are real but when you do the math..
Why are the Eastwood's and De Niro's not as passionately debated though? Are their signing habits more universally agreed upon by the hobby so there is less debate, or is their something about Travolta (besides his rear end - that was a funny post Margot!) that inspires such a polarizing effect?.
Because whoever does travolta fanmail does a very good job at forgering his autograph. looks almost like his in-person autograph. robert de niro autograph TTM and in-person are 99% different. if you study de niro siganture than you know its a fake right away. clint eastwood is a big debate as well. alot of people said eastwood said in a interview "i dont have to read fanmail, my secs handle that"

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