I think some of you "collectors" on here are pretty damn rude. When someone gets an autograph back & is excited about it they're posting it on here to let others know if that person signs & then you come on & tell them it's not real, a secretary signed it & blah blah blah. So you sign your name the same way EVER time you write it? I sure don't. & you were standing RIGHT THERE & saw Clint Eastwood or John Travolta or Keifer Sutherland's secratary sign it & not them themselves? Unless someone says they got it in person then why don't you tell every one that the autograph isn't the real deal then? Why do you even collect TTM autographs if this is the attitude you have about it? People do this for fun, but when others like you sit there & rag & debate if it's real or not it's such a drag & it's stupid--that's why I never post on here, I don't care what you think. I'm so tired of these debates, I say shut up unless you have pictures of someone other than the celebrity signing a picture.

Yep, I think it is definately fair to say they are secretarial, nevermind :lol:

Paul Newman / Kiefer Sutherland

[img]http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/8937/paulnewman21mn.jpg[/img][img]http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/9519/kiefersutherlandj169ro1yz.jpg[/img]

A: Paul Newman secretary signature.
[url]http://www.gretelbauer-filmantiquariat.de/service_cont2.html[/url]
(Gretel Bauer Filmantiquariat)

B: Paul Newman autograph posted on the feedback forum on August 2005.
(Address used: ICM 40 W. 57th St. New York, NY 10019)
[url]http://www.fanmail.biz/mboard/viewtopic.php?p=31478[/url]

[b]A[/b] [url=http://imageshack.us][img]http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/1953/flnewmansecretary4ca.jpg[/img][/url] [b]B[/b] [img]http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/8937/paulnewman21mn.jpg[/img]



C: Clint Eastwood secretary signature.
(Gretel Bauer Filmantiquariat)
[url]http://www.gretelbauer-filmantiquariat.de/service_cont2.html[/url]

D: Clint Eastwood autograph posted on the feedback forum on January 2006.
(Address used: PO Box 4366 Carmel, CA 93921-4366)
[url]http://www.fanmail.biz/mboard/viewtopic.php?t=20505[/url]

[b]C[/b] [img]http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/4108/fleastwood5by.jpg[/img]
[b]D[/b] [url=http://imageshack.us][img]http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/6505/clinteastwoodj131ws7co.jpg[/img][/url]



[b]E[/b] Kiefer Sutherland autograph posted on January 2006 on the feedback forum.
(Address used: Wolf-Kasteler 335 North Maple Drive #351 Beverly Hills, CA 90210-3857)
[url]http://www.fanmail.biz/mboard/viewtopic.php?t=20732[/url]

[b]E[/b] [url=http://imageshack.us][img]http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/9519/kiefersutherlandj169ro1yz.jpg[/img][/url]

Looking at the Eastwood sigs, I would think the TTM sigs are real, just a little less rushed.

I did read an article where Hollywood actually hires people to sign autographs for high profile celebrities. Also there is a running joke within the hobby that Clint Eastwood looking at an autograph can't tell himself if he signed it or his secretary did. Unfortunately alot of high profile celebs DO NOT SIGN THRU THE MAIL. I also read an article where a neighbor of clint eastwood's actually stated that with the amount of requests clint receives he may have to employ more people to sign and laughed. If anyone is familiar with Abbott and Costello the famed comedians. Lou Costello, according to an interview many years ago with his personal secretary, she admiited that she signed his name so many times to autograph requests that it got to the point you couldnt tell the difference. She went on further that she even wrote and signed letters back to his own family and that the only thing he actually insisted on signing was his bank checks. He thought that was important.

[quote="admin"]Hi all :)
[b]Does someone know the name of the person/manager who may sign for them? (Sutherland & Newman)[/b]
quote]

Just what I was going to ask Admin :lol:

I would really like to know the source or circumstances of the above 'genuine in-person' autographs before I make any personal assumptions :P

I can see [i]parts[/i] of Newman's and Sutherland's autographs seem to be similar, but I just have to agree with previous posters a bit and say that neither of those two autographs have changed much over many years. So whoever autographs the TTM pictures they have been employed for quite some time!

Ian :mrgreen:

Hi all :)

Thanks harrylare for starting this debate {up}

[b]Does someone know the name of the person/manager who may sign for them? (Sutherland & Newman)[/b]

Here is the original post including Paul Newman, Clint Eastwood, and Sutherland scans:
[url]http://www.fanmail.biz/mboard/viewtopic.php?t=20732[/url]

Fanmail 8)

Hey!!

If they are yours, they are wonderful successes!!!:D

If they aren't, remember to credit your source!!

Chrissy

Hi harrylare {up}

Are these your own 'in-person' successes, or are they from another source?
If so, where were you lucky enough to get them?

Ian :mrgreen: