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Re: ATTN: All members Re: Canada post strike

by johnnylightninglives » Sat Jul 02, 2011 8:18 am

Markd wrote:
johnnylightninglives wrote:
Markd wrote:Wow.

I'm just seeing this now and so I'm assuming everyone is aware that Canada Post is back to work (I'm not saying their strike is over, because they were never on strike). It is shocking that almost everyone who posted including the original poster had no idea what they were talking about and were not aware of the facts. I'm sure everyone here is glad that the mail is back but the fact that to get the mail back a very dangerous precedent has now been set that could negatively affect any Canadian who ever again is a member of a union, is very disturbing to thousands upon thousands of Canadians.

Remember folks, some things are more important than autographs.
Actually i know exactly what i was talking about.first off they were on strike they were doing rotating strikes which is still being on strike they just chose to still deliver the mail 3 days a week but the other 2 they were on strike so you have no idea what you are talking about and the reason the government locked them out was to put a stop to it so canadians could get their mail 5 days a week again.They thought they could hold the mail hostage to get more money and better benefits and the government chose to do the right thing and i hope it sends a message to other greedy union workers to be happy with the already high wages and good benefits they have and stop striking so much. Unions are a thing of the past like the door to door mail delivery is slowly becoming too. So dont tell me i am not aware of the facts i am i just disagree with your opinion and thats what it is its an opinion not facts you have. Only union workers care and most people are not part of aunion and they are tired of union workers asking for way too much for doing what is oftten just a simple job like delivering mail.Now that the government did the right thing small businesses who count on the postal system can start making money again ...Good job harper {up} And its the tax payers who pay these guys wages anyways so the people should have the choice and our conservative government majority has spoken for us taxpayers. {up} [ca]

I don't wasnt to get into an argument, but you are wrong. They were doing rotating stroikes, not by day, but by city, and only major cities. For example Vancouver, Toronto, Ottawa, Kingston, etc. all had their mail disrupted for 1 day, not 1 day a week , 1 day total. Secondly, this wasn't about wanting higher wages, this was about protecting the wages they already had. Canada Post is planning to pay new employess, less than what current employees make, its simply a matter of fairness. As well Canada Post is planning on implementing new measures that makes the job of mail carriers and sorters more dangerous and the union opposes this. In addition you say only union members care, and most people aren't in a union, also not ture. Personally, I am not a member of a union but I certainly care, as do thousands, probably millions of Canadians. So you want facts, here is a fact: The legislation passed by the Conservative Government took away a right guaranteed to Canadians. As well it appears that the government is most likely going to move towards privatizing Canada Post, so yes, if you like higher prices on stamps, less locations to deliver to, and no government regulations then you're right; {up} Harper
It would be diff if it was a private company but the government has the right to do what is best with taxpayers money which is who pays for canadapost.I dont see how mail sorting machines could make things more dangerous for anyone,what it will do is put mail sorters out of work which is the real issue.I think it should be privatized anyways because then the mail will show up faster and in better condition because it will be a private contract so they will work harder and faster to keep the contract and the workers will work harder to keep their jobs {up} Mailmen now dont care what condition you get your mail because they know they cant be fired because of the union. You cant expect the taxpayers to keep paying for all these things for a mail system that has seen a 17% loss of business in only 2 years because of online banking and so on.

Re: ATTN: All members Re: Canada post strike

by Markd » Fri Jul 01, 2011 10:07 pm

johnnylightninglives wrote:
Markd wrote:Wow.

I'm just seeing this now and so I'm assuming everyone is aware that Canada Post is back to work (I'm not saying their strike is over, because they were never on strike). It is shocking that almost everyone who posted including the original poster had no idea what they were talking about and were not aware of the facts. I'm sure everyone here is glad that the mail is back but the fact that to get the mail back a very dangerous precedent has now been set that could negatively affect any Canadian who ever again is a member of a union, is very disturbing to thousands upon thousands of Canadians.

Remember folks, some things are more important than autographs.
Actually i know exactly what i was talking about.first off they were on strike they were doing rotating strikes which is still being on strike they just chose to still deliver the mail 3 days a week but the other 2 they were on strike so you have no idea what you are talking about and the reason the government locked them out was to put a stop to it so canadians could get their mail 5 days a week again.They thought they could hold the mail hostage to get more money and better benefits and the government chose to do the right thing and i hope it sends a message to other greedy union workers to be happy with the already high wages and good benefits they have and stop striking so much. Unions are a thing of the past like the door to door mail delivery is slowly becoming too. So dont tell me i am not aware of the facts i am i just disagree with your opinion and thats what it is its an opinion not facts you have. Only union workers care and most people are not part of aunion and they are tired of union workers asking for way too much for doing what is oftten just a simple job like delivering mail.Now that the government did the right thing small businesses who count on the postal system can start making money again ...Good job harper {up} And its the tax payers who pay these guys wages anyways so the people should have the choice and our conservative government majority has spoken for us taxpayers. {up} [ca]

I don't wasnt to get into an argument, but you are wrong. They were doing rotating stroikes, not by day, but by city, and only major cities. For example Vancouver, Toronto, Ottawa, Kingston, etc. all had their mail disrupted for 1 day, not 1 day a week , 1 day total. Secondly, this wasn't about wanting higher wages, this was about protecting the wages they already had. Canada Post is planning to pay new employess, less than what current employees make, its simply a matter of fairness. As well Canada Post is planning on implementing new measures that makes the job of mail carriers and sorters more dangerous and the union opposes this. In addition you say only union members care, and most people aren't in a union, also not ture. Personally, I am not a member of a union but I certainly care, as do thousands, probably millions of Canadians. So you want facts, here is a fact: The legislation passed by the Conservative Government took away a right guaranteed to Canadians. As well it appears that the government is most likely going to move towards privatizing Canada Post, so yes, if you like higher prices on stamps, less locations to deliver to, and no government regulations then you're right; {up} Harper

Re: ATTN: All members Re: Canada post strike

by johnnylightninglives » Fri Jul 01, 2011 6:21 pm

Markd wrote:Wow.

I'm just seeing this now and so I'm assuming everyone is aware that Canada Post is back to work (I'm not saying their strike is over, because they were never on strike). It is shocking that almost everyone who posted including the original poster had no idea what they were talking about and were not aware of the facts. I'm sure everyone here is glad that the mail is back but the fact that to get the mail back a very dangerous precedent has now been set that could negatively affect any Canadian who ever again is a member of a union, is very disturbing to thousands upon thousands of Canadians.

Remember folks, some things are more important than autographs.
Actually i know exactly what i was talking about.first off they were on strike they were doing rotating strikes which is still being on strike they just chose to still deliver the mail 3 days a week but the other 2 they were on strike so you have no idea what you are talking about and the reason the government locked them out was to put a stop to it so canadians could get their mail 5 days a week again.They thought they could hold the mail hostage to get more money and better benefits and the government chose to do the right thing and i hope it sends a message to other greedy union workers to be happy with the already high wages and good benefits they have and stop striking so much. Unions are a thing of the past like the door to door mail delivery is slowly becoming too. So dont tell me i am not aware of the facts i am i just disagree with your opinion and thats what it is its an opinion not facts you have. Only union workers care and most people are not part of aunion and they are tired of union workers asking for way too much for doing what is oftten just a simple job like delivering mail.Now that the government did the right thing small businesses who count on the postal system can start making money again ...Good job harper {up} And its the tax payers who pay these guys wages anyways so the people should have the choice and our conservative government majority has spoken for us taxpayers. {up} [ca]

Re: ATTN: All members Re: Canada post strike

by Markd » Fri Jul 01, 2011 5:34 am

Wow.

I'm just seeing this now and so I'm assuming everyone is aware that Canada Post is back to work (I'm not saying their strike is over, because they were never on strike). It is shocking that almost everyone who posted including the original poster had no idea what they were talking about and were not aware of the facts. I'm sure everyone here is glad that the mail is back but the fact that to get the mail back a very dangerous precedent has now been set that could negatively affect any Canadian who ever again is a member of a union, is very disturbing to thousands upon thousands of Canadians.

Remember folks, some things are more important than autographs.

Re: ATTN: All members Re: Canada post strike

by jessemcluv » Fri Jun 24, 2011 8:55 pm

Not only is effecting our autograph collecting (was going to be sending out Aly Michalka to the hellcats address), But it's effecting others around the world. My mom does ebay (She Sells used Toys) and we went to the post office today. She was sending tons of packages, and I was sending my letter to Amanda Seyfried. She puts the package up to Canada.
"There On Strike"
They are assumingly payed very well, and even offered to be met halfway. It sucks for all those out there who needed to send there, because now we cant.

Re: ATTN: All members Re: Canada post strike

by johnnylightninglives » Sat Jun 18, 2011 7:05 pm

ultimateager wrote:I guess I am the only one backing the workers, probably because I am a union steward...

Are the mail carriers being required to do more work? I'd like to fully understand their situation. Obviously there is reasoning for them wanting more money. IF its like every other jobs especially around here, the work force has been cut by at least 35% and the same amount of work has to get done so the remaining employees have all that work to pick up overloading our currently full work load.

Nobody wants to make less doing the same thing when the cost of everything is getting more expensive every year.
No they just want more money,larger pensions and more vacation time. Mail volumes are down in canada and nobody at canada post has been laid off so if anything they do less work than 2 years ago. I know unions are there to protect workers but they tend to abuse it and ask for too much which is why unions are almost a thing of the past now.Another reason they are striking is because in most cities in canada mail is still sorted by people and the government wants to have machines do it because it costs alot less and is faster and probably more accurate and no possiblity of theft. The bottom line is they would like to stop losing money and as a taxpayer im all for the automated sorting and lay offs because in the end tax dollars pay for it and it would be nice if it wasnt a drain because those dollars could go to other important things .

Re: ATTN: All members Re: Canada post strike

by ultimateager » Fri Jun 17, 2011 9:01 pm

I guess I am the only one backing the workers, probably because I am a union steward...

Are the mail carriers being required to do more work? I'd like to fully understand their situation. Obviously there is reasoning for them wanting more money. IF its like every other jobs especially around here, the work force has been cut by at least 35% and the same amount of work has to get done so the remaining employees have all that work to pick up overloading our currently full work load.

Nobody wants to make less doing the same thing when the cost of everything is getting more expensive every year.

Re: ATTN: All members Re: Canada post strike

by johnnylightninglives » Fri Jun 17, 2011 7:08 pm

I agree that this strike is ridiculous and the mailmen are being very greedy,they get between $23.00 and $26.00 per hour to get exercise and as far as danger of theft i have never heard of a mailman being robbed in canada so thats a non issue here. They act like they care about the people getting their mail and blame the the government for locking them out and us not getting mail but in reality they only care about themselves and the government just locked them out so they would stop doing rotating strikes which cost the government alot of money and by locking them out they can now force them back to work next week which they plan on doing and they will take what was offered to them and should be happy to still have a job considering mail delivery is down 20% over the past 2 years in canada. Dont forget its the taxpayers that pay their salary and we dont want to pay them anymore money and considering half my mail shows up bent or wet i would say they are already overpaid...They will wish they werent so greedy in afew years when all streets have the boxes and door to door delivery ends and one person in a van does what 50 people were doing but they only have themselves to blame. As far as autograph requests go i had send to selena gomez whos hosting the mmva awards in canada on sunday but i doubt it made it in time thanks to this strike and even if it did she cant mail it back to me nnow anyways....Thanks for nothing greedy mailmen and women {down}

Re: ATTN: All members Re: Canada post strike

by goswannies » Fri Jun 17, 2011 11:15 am

Some people with postgraduate higher degrees earn less than $26/hr!! Why spend 7 years at Uni when you can be paid better to exercise! Unless they get to ride motorbikes, in which case $26/hr to not even exert themselves!

Re: ATTN: All members Re: Canada post strike

by Jaffer » Fri Jun 17, 2011 6:35 am

marokee wrote:they are a crown corporation, meaning that the government owns the post, however, it operates autonomously.

what happened was the contract was up, they wanted more money/stuff....and what they wanted was a drastically large increase. canada post met them halfway, but they refused that therefore strike.

the reason i wrote "presumably minimum wage job" was the job is not overly difficult. While they may be prime "targets" for robbery, their wages were HUGE to begin with. They make more /hr. than UPS or FedEx.

I understand to a mail-person the comment i made may sound a bit off the cuff, for which I apologise.

ANY STRIKE IS A TEMPER TANTRUM. (ie: someone not getting what they want so they make other people suffer)

that is the stem of my frustration.




this was quite a detour, but the fact of the matter is, your mail wont be delivered until the post decides to put on their big boy underwear and get back to work, supporting their families, and providing an essential service to the country.
Whilst I sometimes support striking workers, when you are getting $26 an hour, and are offered a pay rise, that is pretty darn sweet to me. It does seem kind of petty to strike over this...
Does the government pay these workers? If so, I can't say I am surprised that Harper would not cave in haha.

But back to the case at hand, this is very frustrating, as I was going to send to Anna Kendrick (one of my most wanted) vv but there is obviously no point now. Any word on when this will be over? The most annoying thing will be if these are rolling strikes.

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