I think someone on EBay is faking autographs.

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by robert_holik » Sat Feb 25, 2006 11:41 am

NO, DO YOU REALLY MEAN THAT THEY FAKE?!?!?
I DIDNT KNOW THAT (sarcastic)

by Piper » Sat Feb 25, 2006 1:14 am

vivalakayla wrote:
Piper wrote:My favorites are the ones where the seller has misspelled the celebrity's name. Like, at least make an effort, dude!
Haha that is funny who was the celeb that had their name spelled wrong?
Renee O'Connor (I hope I spelled that right, LOL.) I don't recall if it was really *spelled* wrong, but they put the accent in "Renee" over the wrong E.

Re: Good

by TheCollector » Fri Feb 24, 2006 10:21 pm

plhepner2 wrote:Good input from everyone! I was actually going to buy some autographs for my school auction so I didn't really care if they were pre-prints but I'm wondering - not to get too technical - but what do they do? Do they compose these things on a computer and print them out or what? It's not fair that there's this "counterfeit" world out there. :x
Hey plhepner2 {up}

Thanks for your post!

Undoubtably a lot of the autographs sold on Ebay are questionable in origin :wink: You are far safer to try to get your own, through the mail, especially if you are collecting for a fund-raiser or charity auction.

One thing I will point out for you though, is that proper PREPRINTS are not fakes or counterfeits. They are purely photographic "facsimilies" of actual autographs. Many celebrities are unable to keep up with the demand for their authentic autograph, so they sign a photograph which is then duplicated by their agent or another official source and sent out to fans. These photo / copies are of high quality.

What you are confusing this with on Ebay are some sellers who either fake an auto on a photograph, copy the photo many times and sell the copies, or occasionally get a genuine autograph and copy that for all it's worth and sell the copies.

The difference is that these copies tend to be low-quality prints produced on a standard printer, and not worth the paper they are printed on.

I, like many of the "Charity Collectors" on this forum encounter the same thing every time we have hold a charity sale on Ebay. Believe me, if there was a better way to reach such a large audience for an auction, I would be doing it!

Without going into too much detail, I know some quite major celebs quite well through the course of my work. I can then get some autos which others may not be able to, but when it comes to selling them (via Ebay) I cannot ever get them to reach anywhere near what they are actually worth.

To give you an idea, a personally signed photo from Sir Elton John with a COA from his agent failed to meet the reserve of £100 at Christmas on Ebay. I know 100% that it is genuine, but "apparently" so are the other 30 on sale at the same time on Ebay :?

Unfortunately Ebay can be a blessing and a curse to the autograph buyer. It really is a blind auction!

Ian :mrgreen:

Good

by plhepner2 » Fri Feb 24, 2006 9:21 pm

Good input from everyone! I was actually going to buy some autographs for my school auction so I didn't really care if they were pre-prints but I'm wondering - not to get too technical - but what do they do? Do they compose these things on a computer and print them out or what? It's not fair that there's this "counterfeit" world out there. :x

by Joeay » Fri Feb 24, 2006 4:39 pm

beachbum_no1 wrote:i agree their is so many fakes on ebay i have put stuff on before and people have thought its fake becuase it looks different from the fakes when actually its an in person lol

its screrws it up for people who want to sell something genuinly
Well I can definitely say I witnessed you in action and your autographs are genuine ;) Perhaps you should put up a site and sell your stuff there, might be a bit easier and people might actually believe you. Also put your pictures with/of. No better proof than that.

by beachbum_no1 » Fri Feb 24, 2006 3:56 pm

i agree their is so many fakes on ebay i have put stuff on before and people have thought its fake becuase it looks different from the fakes when actually its an in person lol

its screrws it up for people who want to sell something genuinly

by IamLOST922 » Fri Feb 24, 2006 1:44 pm

I was once told that if it is a private auction then it is probably a fake because no one can email the high bidder to tell them that it is a fake. Funny just how many ebay autograph auctions are private. Also, I hate how some of them use tricky wording. Have you ever seen those that say, this is a copy of a photo signed by so and so. That could be taken that the photo itself is a copy but the autograph is not. Makes me mad how some people are making a living off of ripping off others.

by vivalakayla » Thu Feb 23, 2006 10:38 pm

Joeay wrote:Well I don't know about this seller but the title of this message just makes me laugh.

Last I looked on ebay, about 80% of the autographs I saw there were fake, and I could tell cos I have IPs from those same people that I got myself and they looked nothing like it.

From what I hear it seems that ebay has just got worse since then.

Basically, I personally would never buy an autograph. But if anyone plans to buy an autograph of anyone, look for a proper dealer, someone you trust. Will be a shame to waste money on trash.
I've bought an autograph on Ebay like 6 times but it was for a charity. As long as it goes to a good cause then that's fine with me :)

by vivalakayla » Thu Feb 23, 2006 10:36 pm

Piper wrote:My favorites are the ones where the seller has misspelled the celebrity's name. Like, at least make an effort, dude!
Haha that is funny who was the celeb that had their name spelled wrong?

by Piper » Thu Feb 23, 2006 9:43 pm

My favorites are the ones where the seller has misspelled the celebrity's name. Like, at least make an effort, dude!

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