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Ronald Reagan

Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 12:43 am
by mixture
Can anyone with knowledge on historical/political autos, tell me about this:
what do you think?
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Many thanks!

Re: Ronald Reagan

Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 12:49 am
by Theone30
It matches most of his authentic signitures, but it tough to tell without actually seeing it and looking at it person so I can't say i am 100% but I would say that the autograph is authentic. Reagan had a fairly easy signiture to duplicate so it could be a sec, but I would say its probablly not a PP or AP...Also I think the incription on the top that dedicates the photo to someone was put there by someone else. Great piece {up} [us]

Re: Ronald Reagan

Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 12:50 am
by WildChild96
Definitely not real. {down}

Re: Ronald Reagan

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 6:55 am
by Politician
WildChild96 wrote:Definitely not real. {down}
Why? I just wanna know for my reference.

Re: Ronald Reagan

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 1:52 pm
by WildChild96
Compare:

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Re: Ronald Reagan

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 4:02 pm
by Sun Devil
WildChild96 wrote:Compare:

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Are you a handwriting expert with 40 years of experience? Do you realize that there is always variation in a person's signature? So you're answer is to post a blurry autopenned copy of his signature from an 8x10 and say, compare! Yes, that's an autopen....his real signature has more variation than that. I'd love to hear an actual explination from you as to why this signature is not real, not just because you said it's fake. I believe the signature to be real. Furthermore if it's fake, it's a darn good one!

Re: Ronald Reagan

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 5:16 pm
by WildChild96
Excuse me. It's only an autograph. I thought it would be best to post a picture that was taken from an "official source," like the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library. I would think that they would have a copy of what his real autograph looks like out of anybody else I would trust.

Re: Ronald Reagan

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 6:57 pm
by Sun Devil
The "official" sources will typically show you a perfect penned (often autopenned) signature. Most would agree that the 8x10 in question has almost identical handwriting as this letter. Image

Re: Ronald Reagan

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 7:08 pm
by WildChild96
Well...it looks (to me, at least) like "Ronald Reagan" was written by somebody other than Reagan himself. It's too big, and he had smaller-looking handwriting. :)

Re: Ronald Reagan

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 7:44 pm
by Sun Devil
Wildchild-
I just wanted to show you a great example of variation (from the same person) Both signatures below are 100% authentic. Now I agree with one of the previous posters on this topic that the dedication could have later been added, I'm just trying to help you out when it comes to recognizing certain traits among the same signer. The example given is Gene Simmons from KISS. :)
Image -----Considered a clean beautiful signature.

Image ----A quick, rather half-assed attempt.

I've got about 22 years into this autograph collecting thing. Sure, some things still puzzle me but this Reagan example is a good place to start for people beginning to spot differences among the same signer! :)