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Ray Charles, real or AP?

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 4:26 pm
by StratasFan
Hi! Got this picture in a garage sale lot and am wondering if this is AP or PP or real? Any thoughts? Thanks for any advice!

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Re: Ray Charles, real or AP?

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 6:00 pm
by fromuk2014
StratasFan wrote:Hi! Got this picture in a garage sale lot and am wondering if this is AP or PP or real? Any thoughts? Thanks for any advice!

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I have an authentic that I can check for you soon, I'll let you know, it looks good to me right now since my photo is from his office and includes his letter.

Re: Ray Charles, real or AP?

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 12:43 pm
by WaltG123
StratasFan wrote:Hi! Got this picture in a garage sale lot and am wondering if this is AP or PP or real? Any thoughts? Thanks for any advice!
I don't know Ray Charles well, but I do know that APs were not as advanced before he died as they are now, and I don't see any obvious signs in the lettering that I'd expect to see in an AP from that era (shaking, start/stop dots, etc). There is, what appears from your photo, to be some shaking on the "dot" of the "I", but I have no problem dismissing that based on how clean the line from the "S" is (an AP from back then would not be able to pull that off so cleanly).

Though I could be wrong, I have no problems saying it's not an AP.

It could still be a Sec or a PP though. Like I said, I'm not well versed in Ray Charles' autograph or signing habits.

Re: Ray Charles, real or AP?

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 3:00 pm
by fromuk2014
Hi, sorry for the delay, I've just checked the photo I have which is different and his autograph is both printed in the corner and he has signed clearly across the middle which takes up lots of space and I would say its completely different but doesn't mean its not real, mine is also dedicated with letter from Ray Charles Enterprises.

Mr. Charles also signed in silver on the one I have.

Re: Ray Charles, real or AP?

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 11:20 am
by StratasFan
Hi! Thanks for all the help. I was kind of thinking it over and wondering how someone who could not see since very young could achieve such handwriting? I've read a lot about teaching blind people to write over the years, and this doesn't have any of the signs. Just wondering if he had a sec to sign.

Re: Ray Charles, real or AP?

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 3:07 pm
by Denisrichard
He did have a sec sign....he did sign in person but always printed him name....if you research it you can find known examples