Buzz Aldrin Signing

[Ugaman72]

I honestly don't care if he charged 10,000 bucks a signature. You just argued that he had achieved his success and celebrity on his own and didn't owe anybody anything. I just pointed out that my tax dollars paid for that 'lil rocket he took to the moon. He can refuse to sigh anything he wants. However, he's not allowed to make the argument that his success had nothing to do with us tax-payers.

As your name is Ugaman72 ( a LOT of users use the year of their DOB in their usernames ) , that sort of points to you being , what ? , 37 ? As Buzz did the Gemini mission in 1966 , the Apollo in 1969 , I'm sort of of the opinion that your tax dollars paid for precisely NONE of the cost of sending Buzz into space . Please feel free to correct me .

And if your tax dollars DID pay towards his space missions , so what ? You paid towards an American doing his job , just like you pay for a Police man , a teacher , a parking officer , and just like his taxes would be paying for you if you did any of these jobs . He still owes you nothing , nada , zilch .

While I would love his autograph ( I would have got one for the $27 price of the book if he charged that over here in the UK ) , I choose not to pay the sort of money he charges - but that doesn't mean I don't understand the reason why he charges it . How good would it be to be the friendly sort who gives free autographs all the time , only to see them sold for hundreds of dollars weeks later ? How proud must you be ? How glad are you that all your hard work and training has gone towards getting somebody ( who has probably never achieved anything in their life ) a brand new 42" plasma TV , or an holiday in France ?

The reason our hobby has started on the slippery slope down the pan is that there are a LOT of people out there who will get autos and charge stupid money for them . And who can blame the celebrities / actors / astronauts / writers and anybody else decided that they will either have nothing to do with autographs , or that they will make thier own pennies before the sharks get involved ?

Why exactly are you trying to take me to task for agreeing with you? If you had read my post, you would have seen that I agree that he can refuse to sign every autograph he's asked for, or he can charge $10,000. That's the free market. It's what makes the US so great. I just took offense at the poster saying that Buzz's success was all his own. I found it to be a slap in the face to all the tax-payers, and especially the thousands of support personnel, that helped launch him into space.

[tansternant]

I honestly don't care if he charged 10,000 bucks a signature. You just argued that he had achieved his success and celebrity on his own and didn't owe anybody anything. I just pointed out that my tax dollars paid for that 'lil rocket he took to the moon. He can refuse to sigh anything he wants. However, he's not allowed to make the argument that his success had nothing to do with us tax-payers.

As your name is Ugaman72 ( a LOT of users use the year of their DOB in their usernames ) , that sort of points to you being , what ? , 37 ? As Buzz did the Gemini mission in 1966 , the Apollo in 1969 , I'm sort of of the opinion that your tax dollars paid for precisely NONE of the cost of sending Buzz into space . Please feel free to correct me .

And if your tax dollars DID pay towards his space missions , so what ? You paid towards an American doing his job , just like you pay for a Police man , a teacher , a parking officer , and just like his taxes would be paying for you if you did any of these jobs . He still owes you nothing , nada , zilch .

While I would love his autograph ( I would have got one for the $27 price of the book if he charged that over here in the UK ) , I choose not to pay the sort of money he charges - but that doesn't mean I don't understand the reason why he charges it . How good would it be to be the friendly sort who gives free autographs all the time , only to see them sold for hundreds of dollars weeks later ? How proud must you be ? How glad are you that all your hard work and training has gone towards getting somebody ( who has probably never achieved anything in their life ) a brand new 42" plasma TV , or an holiday in France ?

The reason our hobby has started on the slippery slope down the pan is that there are a LOT of people out there who will get autos and charge stupid money for them . And who can blame the celebrities / actors / astronauts / writers and anybody else decided that they will either have nothing to do with autographs , or that they will make thier own pennies before the sharks get involved ?

Why exactly are you trying to take me to task for agreeing with you? If you had read my post, you would have seen that I agree that he can refuse to sign every autograph he's asked for, or he can charge $10,000. That's the free market. It's what makes the US so great. I just took offense at the poster saying that Buzz's success was all his own. I found it to be a slap in the face to all the tax-payers, and especially the thousands of support personnel, that helped launch him into space.

The first part of my answer was aimed at you , stating that I didn't think your tax dollars were old enough to have paid for Buzz's fame , and that that still didn't entitle you to have Buzz at your beck and call even if you are old enough .

The second part was aimed at anybody who thinks that .... owes everything to us , and should sign everything we want . That is why I put it in a new paragraph , to show that it was a new subject .