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Re: Doris Day success

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Why would the guy send off for hoping he would get a RTS? Dont talk cr@p man will ya not. Its up too shaun what price stamp he decides too use..
All he has done is post his success and your talking out your ass
"RTSed to his own address", which he has probably put as the return address. If you actually read my post properly before making idiotic comments it might make more sense to you.
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Some people are far too trusting of autographed items authenticated by 3rd parties such as PSA and JSA.

Granted, yes, they are the industry standards. And yes, the majority of the items they authenticate are real.

But you still need to do your homework before making an uninformed purchase simply because an autographed item has a PSA or JSA sticker on it. Especially if it is of a rare or high valued autograph.

There are so many loop holes with their authentication process that more fakes get passed through the system than you realize.

And most of the employees that authenticate for these companies are no more experts than any collector who has been a part of this hobby for a long time.

You would be surprised how often PSA or JSA will call collectors/experts who don't work for them asking for their opinions/help authenticating items.
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This site is a good source for determining secretarials, forgeries, and real signatures.
Here's the page for Doris Day:

http://www.isitreal.com/index.php?optio ... d=99999999
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CHIgrapher wrote:Some people are far too trusting of autographed items authenticated by 3rd parties such as PSA and JSA.

Granted, yes, they are the industry standards. And yes, the majority of the items they authenticate are real.

But you still need to do your homework before making an uninformed purchase simply because an autographed item has a PSA or JSA sticker on it. Especially if it is of a rare or high valued autograph.

There are so many loop holes with their authentication process that more fakes get passed through the system than you realize.

And most of the employees that authenticate for these companies are no more experts than any collector who has been a part of this hobby for a long time.

You would be surprised how often PSA or JSA will call collectors/experts who don't work for them asking for their opinions/help authenticating items.
I did a quick google image search of "secretarial autograph" and saw a few certified secretarials by PSA or JSA of Jackie Gleason, Charlton Heston and Tony Curtis.
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jason1980s wrote:
CHIgrapher wrote:Some people are far too trusting of autographed items authenticated by 3rd parties such as PSA and JSA.

Granted, yes, they are the industry standards. And yes, the majority of the items they authenticate are real.

But you still need to do your homework before making an uninformed purchase simply because an autographed item has a PSA or JSA sticker on it. Especially if it is of a rare or high valued autograph.

There are so many loop holes with their authentication process that more fakes get passed through the system than you realize.

And most of the employees that authenticate for these companies are no more experts than any collector who has been a part of this hobby for a long time.

You would be surprised how often PSA or JSA will call collectors/experts who don't work for them asking for their opinions/help authenticating items.
I did a quick google image search of "secretarial autograph" and saw a few certified secretarials by PSA or JSA of Jackie Gleason, Charlton Heston and Tony Curtis.


NOT SURPRISING. I wouldn't trust PSA.
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CHIgrapher wrote:Some people are far too trusting of autographed items authenticated by 3rd parties such as PSA and JSA.

Granted, yes, they are the industry standards. And yes, the majority of the items they authenticate are real.

But you still need to do your homework before making an uninformed purchase simply because an autographed item has a PSA or JSA sticker on it. Especially if it is of a rare or high valued autograph.

There are so many loop holes with their authentication process that more fakes get passed through the system than you realize.

And most of the employees that authenticate for these companies are no more experts than any collector who has been a part of this hobby for a long time.

You would be surprised how often PSA or JSA will call collectors/experts who don't work for them asking for their opinions/help authenticating items.
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i would say psa/dna authenticates about 80-85% of sports signatures correctly. but it drops severely for celebs, probably 60-65% correctly
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Actually someone bumped in to her in Carmel, got a picture with her and an autograph...also asked her about through the mail, and she said she signs all of her stuff through the mail...sometimes it just takes her a little longer...and he threw her autograph he got, along with the picture with her, and they look the same as the ones through the mail. Don't listen to anyone who says they are sec...because they probably heard it from someone, who heard it from someone, who heard it from somewhere, who made it up. I'm sure there are many that use secretaries to sign things, but my thought is keep everything and let someone else decide if they're real or not later on. Unless you get to meet the person and ask (like the gentleman did with Ms. day), you don't know anyway. Just because you didn't see them sign it, doesn't mean they didn't. I'd rather keep it and show it was a fake later, then throw it out thinking its fake and shown it was real.
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ranrtt wrote:Actually someone bumped in to her in Carmel, got a picture with her and an autograph...also asked her about through the mail, and she said she signs all of her stuff through the mail...sometimes it just takes her a little longer...and he threw her autograph he got, along with the picture with her, and they look the same as the ones through the mail. Don't listen to anyone who says they are sec...because they probably heard it from someone, who heard it from someone, who heard it from somewhere, who made it up. I'm sure there are many that use secretaries to sign things, but my thought is keep everything and let someone else decide if they're real or not later on. Unless you get to meet the person and ask (like the gentleman did with Ms. day), you don't know anyway. Just because you didn't see them sign it, doesn't mean they didn't. I'd rather keep it and show it was a fake later, then throw it out thinking its fake and shown it was real.
Where is this person at? with their autograph? I would like to see it.
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dancingirl1 wrote:
ranrtt wrote:Actually someone bumped in to her in Carmel, got a picture with her and an autograph...also asked her about through the mail, and she said she signs all of her stuff through the mail...sometimes it just takes her a little longer...and he threw her autograph he got, along with the picture with her, and they look the same as the ones through the mail. Don't listen to anyone who says they are sec...because they probably heard it from someone, who heard it from someone, who heard it from somewhere, who made it up. I'm sure there are many that use secretaries to sign things, but my thought is keep everything and let someone else decide if they're real or not later on. Unless you get to meet the person and ask (like the gentleman did with Ms. day), you don't know anyway. Just because you didn't see them sign it, doesn't mean they didn't. I'd rather keep it and show it was a fake later, then throw it out thinking its fake and shown it was real.
Where is this person at? with their autograph? I would like to see it.
Yes Jord I would like too see it too but it won't happen, as the guy won't scan it and prove it too us as he will probably make a lame excuse. :lol:
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