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George W. Bush - Preprint or autopen Success
Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 1:25 am
by Senior1510
Sent a request to Pres. George W. Bush for an autographed photo in February, 2014. Received the photo on March 12th. I used this address:
Office of George W. Bush
P.O. Box 259000
Dallas, TX 75225-9000
http://surfmypictures.com/image/33f9f5e ... 2y43o.html
http://surfmypictures.com/image/33f9f5e ... og2u2.html
And yes, I know it's most likely a preprint or an autopen... However, it does not match any of the samples that I can find on line...
Re: George W. Bush - Success!!!
Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 1:53 am
by Zaj
Autopen. Sorry.
Re: George W. Bush - Success!!!
Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 2:08 am
by MW1221
You might know, but you didn't post it. Instead you posted everything someone would post if it was authentic.
Authenticity discussions on Feedback aren't for or about the OP. They're about preventing collectors who the post from wasting time, stamps, and money writing to someone based off an inaccurate Feedback that dubs facsimiles authentic. And yes, reporting it as an "autographed photo" without saying "AP" is dubbing it authentic.
Re: George W. Bush - Success!!!
Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 2:11 am
by Zaj
So you edited your post to say you know it's an autopen... so out of curiosity, why is it in a frame?

Re: George W. Bush - Success!!!
Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 2:16 am
by MW1221
Zaj wrote:So you edited your post to say you know it's an autopen... so out of curiosity, why is it in a frame?

I only frame my fake ones--I secure the real ones in a binder. I don't trust frames to keep the signatures archived.
Plus, hey, if you know nothing of autographs and you see a signed picture of a president hanging on someone's wall with their name inscribed on it, you'd be impressed! It's the same reason why the eBay PP business does so well--they look impressive. And you don't have to worry about UV exposure, acidity, temperature or anything else, because they're fake anyway.
Although, once a president dies, the AP signatures become more valuable due to scarcity and the fact that they can sign legal contracts, as they can't run that AP matrix anymore. PPs are never worth anything as you can reproduce them into oblivion.
Re: George W. Bush - Success!!!
Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 2:33 am
by Zaj
MW1221 wrote:Zaj wrote:So you edited your post to say you know it's an autopen... so out of curiosity, why is it in a frame?

I only frame my fake ones--I secure the real ones in a binder. I don't trust frames to keep the signatures archived.
Plus, hey, if you know nothing of autographs and you see a signed picture of a president hanging on someone's wall with their name inscribed on it, you'd be impressed! It's the same reason why the eBay PP business does so well--they look impressive. And you don't have to worry about UV exposure, acidity, temperature or anything else, because they're fake anyway.
Although, once a president dies, the AP signatures become more valuable due to scarcity and the fact that they can sign legal contracts, as they can't run that AP matrix anymore. PPs are never worth anything as you can reproduce them into oblivion.
I don't frame anything as weird as that sounds. I keep everything in a binder. I don't even go after APs and if I happen to get one, in the trash it goes.

Re: George W. Bush - Success!!!
Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 2:37 am
by MW1221
Zaj wrote:MW1221 wrote:Zaj wrote:So you edited your post to say you know it's an autopen... so out of curiosity, why is it in a frame?

I only frame my fake ones--I secure the real ones in a binder. I don't trust frames to keep the signatures archived.
Plus, hey, if you know nothing of autographs and you see a signed picture of a president hanging on someone's wall with their name inscribed on it, you'd be impressed! It's the same reason why the eBay PP business does so well--they look impressive. And you don't have to worry about UV exposure, acidity, temperature or anything else, because they're fake anyway.
Although, once a president dies, the AP signatures become more valuable due to scarcity and the fact that they can sign legal contracts, as they can't run that AP matrix anymore. PPs are never worth anything as you can reproduce them into oblivion.
I don't frame anything as weird as that sounds. I keep everything in a binder. I don't even go after APs and if I happen to get one, in the trash it goes.

I have a few in frames, but they're more sentimental than anything. I can't bring myself to throw any of 'em away, which is sad, as it's space I can devote to other things, but I also don't put 'em in the binder either anymore (unless they're really really cool)
Re: George W. Bush - Success!!!
Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 2:44 am
by Senior1510
I frame them because I hang them on a wall. I do not collect for their value. Only for the fun of it. I happen to like George Bush so he's up there with the rest even though it's obvious it's not a real signature.
I do have a Mitt Romney but it's on a big poster and he didn't win anyway!
Re: George W. Bush - Success!!!
Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 2:48 am
by MW1221
Senior1510 wrote:I frame them because I hang them on a wall. I do not collect for their value. Only for the fun of it. I happen to like George Bush so he's up there with the rest even though it's obvious it's not a real signature.
I do have a Mitt Romney but it's on a big poster and he didn't win anyway!
I never have figured out an ideal way to preserve posters, personally.
Everyone says framing is the best, but I still don't trust it.
Then again, I don't trust my binders much either.
Re: George W. Bush - Success!!!
Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 3:02 am
by dancingirl1
Senior1510 wrote:I frame them because I hang them on a wall. I do not collect for their value. Only for the fun of it. I happen to like George Bush so he's up there with the rest even though it's obvious it's not a real signature.
Here are a few tips for you about framing:
* For authentic and/or valuable autographs:
don't let the photos touch the glass.
*
Matte the photo as well (that tool doesn't let he photo touch the glass)
*
Keep away from the sun light because the sun WILL fade the photo.
