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Re: MOCK US ELECTIONS!!!

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I usually don't get involved in these types of discussions but I just want to say a piece of what I'm thinking:

Either way, this election was historic for the US. I congratulate both men for running, I congratulate Sarah Palin for running also. This election made major headway in US Politics - something not seen since Geraldine Ferraro in the 1980's. Ferraro and Hillary did shatter that ceiling for women - and Palin proved that people now in the US are very willing to vote for a woman to be the VP. (Whether you like her or not, I'm just giving credit where credit is due)

Second - I don't base my vote on who I think will "change" the US the most - because the "change" won't come from only a President - "change" goes through the Senate and House of Reps and then the President. So whoever got elected still has to contend with the House and Senate before any "change" will come about.

Third - To those of you who based your opinion on the abortion debate - it will go on forever, you will not get everyone to agree with you all of the time. Personally, I couldn't have an abortion (it would kill my spirit and my heart would break), but I still want my right as a woman to choose whether or not to have an abortion. I personally don't think that the government should get involved in my right to choose.

Fourth - I'm a teacher. I've seen what happens to students with No Child Left Behind (thank you Bush :( ) and to tell you the truth I don't know which one (McCain or Obama) would be best for the education system in the US. I do believe it would be Obama - only because he does have his two little girls and he has to worry about their futures, whereas McCain is not directly impacted by NCLB.

Fifth - All Politicians shade the truth to fit their perspectives. I believe that both men could have been a good President. McCain deserves so much credit for serving his country and especially as a POW. My grandfather was a POW in the Philippines during WWII and died there. I believe that McCain is a great patriot and loves this country deeply.
For Obama I think that he has had to deal with a lot of issues too, being bi-racial, coping with forming his identity, especially as his father was an Immigrant. My heritage is Native American and White, and my husband is an immigrant to the USA (from England). Our daughter will have to deal with finding who she is, and her definition of self. So I congratulate Senator/President Elect Obama on finding his identity that he is comfortable with.

Last - I was reminded of the Kennedy election where people were afraid to vote for JFK because he was a Catholic, and the US had not had a Catholic president before. Kennedy was very charismatic and he was able to energize the youth of this country - just like Obama did. But McCain also energized the voters - there were more voters this year than in past elections - and I think that both McCain and Obama deserve all the credit in the world for having inspired so many people to vote.

So - Congratulations to McCain for putting up a great campaign. And my heartfelt congratulations to President Elect Obama. and Congratulations to all the people from all parties who got out and had their voices heard.

That's all I'm saying on this topic.

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when i was 13 years old i thought i knew a lot more than i really did. obama is okay with abortion, but so is a lot of people. i'm one of them, does that make me a lying jerk? bush screwed this country up like no other, and i really believe obama can change that.
You are not a lying jerk because your not lying. I was calling Obama that because he has been lying a LOT!
You should NOT be ok with abortion!! How would you like it if your mom aborted your sister or brother?!?!?
Your mom was pro-life! She had you! Why aren't u pro-life??? Think about it! Abortion KILLS babies!!!
It MURDERS them!!! Sweet little babies!! I would certainly not be ok with my mom killing my siblings!
I don't know about you people but abortion seems pretty wrong to me!
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MileyQueen15 wrote:
when i was 13 years old i thought i knew a lot more than i really did. obama is okay with abortion, but so is a lot of people. i'm one of them, does that make me a lying jerk? bush screwed this country up like no other, and i really believe obama can change that.
You are not a lying jerk because your not lying. I was calling Obama that because he has been lying a LOT!
You should NOT be ok with abortion!! How would you like it if your mom aborted your sister or brother?!?!?
Your mom was pro-life! She had you! Why aren't u pro-life??? Think about it! Abortion KILLS babies!!!
It MURDERS them!!! Sweet little babies!! I would certainly not be ok with my mom killing my siblings!
I don't know about you people but abortion seems pretty wrong to me!

okay so you're putting me into a scenario - now let me put you in one. what if you got raped and were suddenly pregnant? would you want to keep that baby and everytime you look at it see the rapist who nearly killed you? a woman owns the rights to her body, therefore she should be able to choose what she wants to do to it.
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MileyQueen15 wrote:You should NOT be ok with abortion!! How would you like it if your mom aborted your sister or brother?!?!?
Your mom was pro-life! She had you! Why aren't u pro-life??? Think about it! Abortion KILLS babies!!!
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Do not go so far as to assume what someone else should or should not be ok with. It is incredibly rude.

Also, my mother kept me. She is not pro-life, she is pro-choice. There is a HUGE difference. My mother wanted me. I wasn't an accident or the result of rape or a faulty condom. If sunkissed08's mother fell pregnant accidentally, she chose to have her. If she was financially unable to support a baby, perhaps she would have made a different choice. But never assume a person who keeps a baby must be pro-life.

If my mother aborted my brother, I would never have known him. So what difference would it have made to me? Probably a huge one... but I wouldn't know it, would I?
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MileyQueen15 wrote:
when i was 13 years old i thought i knew a lot more than i really did. obama is okay with abortion, but so is a lot of people. i'm one of them, does that make me a lying jerk? bush screwed this country up like no other, and i really believe obama can change that.
You are not a lying jerk because your not lying. I was calling Obama that because he has been lying a LOT!
You should NOT be ok with abortion!! How would you like it if your mom aborted your sister or brother?!?!?
Your mom was pro-life! She had you! Why aren't u pro-life??? Think about it! Abortion KILLS babies!!!
It MURDERS them!!! Sweet little babies!! I would certainly not be ok with my mom killing my siblings!
I don't know about you people but abortion seems pretty wrong to me!

To say that Obama has been lying because he is ok with abortion is not true. It is Obama's view on the issue not that he is lying. I am pro choice to say that isn't lying its a point of view {up}
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automan wrote:
MileyQueen15 wrote:
when i was 13 years old i thought i knew a lot more than i really did. obama is okay with abortion, but so is a lot of people. i'm one of them, does that make me a lying jerk? bush screwed this country up like no other, and i really believe obama can change that.
You are not a lying jerk because your not lying. I was calling Obama that because he has been lying a LOT!
You should NOT be ok with abortion!! How would you like it if your mom aborted your sister or brother?!?!?
Your mom was pro-life! She had you! Why aren't u pro-life??? Think about it! Abortion KILLS babies!!!
It MURDERS them!!! Sweet little babies!! I would certainly not be ok with my mom killing my siblings!
I don't know about you people but abortion seems pretty wrong to me!

To say that Obama has been lying because he is ok with abortion is not true. It is Obama's view on the issue not that he is lying. I am pro choice to say that isn't lying its a point of view {up}
If pro life is your point of view fine but don't go to the point of saying Obama was lying.
Man * is not a term United fans refer to themselves as. The term is only used by other supporters as a complete and utter insult to our club. The "u" is meant to be "you" by the rival fans.

An early example was from WBA fans: "Duncan Edwards is manure, rotting in his grave, man you are manure- rotting in your grave". The origin of "Man Utd" is a song to insult the dead Duncan Edwards.

Liverpool and Leeds fans copied this with their own man you /u versions to insult all of the lads who died at munich.

"Man * Man * went on a plane Man * Man * never came back again"

and..

"Man * Never Intended Coming Home" (if you combine the first letter of each word you get the word "munich").


So... Please REFRAIN from using this term ever again!!!!!!!!
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MileyQueen15 wrote:
when i was 13 years old i thought i knew a lot more than i really did. obama is okay with abortion, but so is a lot of people. i'm one of them, does that make me a lying jerk? bush screwed this country up like no other, and i really believe obama can change that.
You are not a lying jerk because your not lying. I was calling Obama that because he has been lying a LOT!
You should NOT be ok with abortion!! How would you like it if your mom aborted your sister or brother?!?!?
Your mom was pro-life! She had you! Why aren't u pro-life??? Think about it! Abortion KILLS babies!!!
It MURDERS them!!! Sweet little babies!! I would certainly not be ok with my mom killing my siblings!
I don't know about you people but abortion seems pretty wrong to me!
Abortion seems wrong to you, thats fine, thats your opinion.

Obama is ok with abortion (as are millions of people), so where is he lying?

The aforementioned example of being raped and getting pregnant is perfect for this scenario, as - although some would keep the baby - a lot would not.

A man and a woman create the baby, and they - and they alone - should have full rights to decide whether the eggs makes it to the embryo stage and eventual results in a new life.

The whole "abortion kills babies" statement is one that makes me laugh, as its like a double dose of obviousness - its like saying "homosexuals are gay".

But taking the "abortion kills babies" statement, to me, it really doesnt. To me, a baby is what is born after 9 months of being in the womb, or if its premature maybe 7-8 months, but obviously survival rate is very low. When an abortion is performed, the "baby" is not the same as the baby that is born, its not aware, its not conscious.

I understand that YOU dont agree with abortion, but to accuse Obama of lying because he supports it, is ridiculous. And you seem to be basing your entire argument against Obama on this whole abortion subject.

Abortion doesnt kill babies, it saves unwanted ones.
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I'm fine with Obama and abortion. I mean, what if your raped, what do you tell your kid.."oh, your father was rapist" how would that make you feel.

I', glad Obama became president and he will be better than John McCain.

As for the thirteen year old.....ALL POLITICIANS LIE!!!! THATS WHAT THEY DO!

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Yeah, Palin is smart all right - http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20081106/twl ... d0ae9.html

She actually thought Africa was a country, not a continent!??!

LMFAO!! :lol: :lol:


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