Possible Success Scams??

[ozzman]

But unless we can absolutely prove it we cant say anything. I agree with you all I think they are all fake but theres no proof to call him on, besides of what everyone else has pointed out but all this person has to say is I just got lucky or the celebs always change their signature. I hope I am making sense here LOL

[nowandagain]

Deleting the posts would be a good idea , to stop misleading others.

Warnings to be given? Maybe. It really depends on what everyone else thinks of this. It's unfair to others, who will probably waste their money on trying to send something to these celebrities.

Whatever we ultimately end up doing, we must remain vigilant.

nowandagain [rockon]

[rpbluesman]

No. Calling his bluff wouldn't help the situation.

Like ozzman said, we can't do a thing, until we are absolutely sure that they are indeed fake.

Until we have hard evidence to back us up, then there is really nothing we can do.

[elmomommyto2]

Well, I have to agree with nowandagain 200% . It's ridiculous to leave up successes that are most obviously fraudulent. It's unfair and just plain mean to lead everyone else on that they might get the same success :x. If it's okay to let this person get by with it, then it's fine for anyone to post fraudulent successes as well and I don't think that's the message that any moderator wants to send.


Oh, and if we don't end up calling his bluff, others may end up in arguments because of it. On the Orlando Bloom success, Joeay has already called him on it and I've already PM her to let her know that we're onto him posting questionable successes. So is it fair for some members know that this member is posting not truthful posts, but all other members are in the dark?

[rpbluesman]

Well, I have to agree with nowandagain 200% . It's ridiculous to leave up successes that are most obviously fraudulent. It's unfair and just plain mean to lead everyone else on that they might get the same success :x. If it's okay to let this person get by with it, then it's fine for anyone to post fraudulent successes as well and I don't think that's the message that any moderator wants to send.


Oh, and if we don't end up calling his bluff, others may end up in arguments because of it. On the Orlando Bloom success, Joeay has already called him on it and I've already PM her to let her know that we're onto him posting questionable successes. So is it fair for some members know that this member is posting not truthful posts, but all other members are in the dark?

Well of course no moderator wants to send the message that anyone with a Sharpie and a picture can sign a name and post it as real. As it was said, this is a forum of trust and honesty.

And no, it isn't fair that only a handful of members know about this fraudelent success. But what we need to realize that we're on shacky ground with this situation. If we call the bluff without a sizeable hand, then we set ourselves up for trouble. Rumors will spread fast that the mods don't trust anyone. And I think that that would be a worse message to send.

I think that the best way for us to handle this is to keep a poker face, so to speak. We need to keep an eye on this member without letting him know what cards we hold. If he starts to post more and more suspicious successes, then we move in and call the bluff. But it's crucial that we get concrete eveidence before we start making accusations.

[nowandagain]

Well of course no moderator wants to send the message that anyone with a Sharpie and a picture can sign a name and post it as real. As it was said, this is a forum of trust and honesty.

And no, it isn't fair that only a handful of members know about this fraudelent success. But what we need to realize that we're on shacky ground with this situation. If we call the bluff without a sizeable hand, then we set ourselves up for trouble. Rumors will spread fast that the mods don't trust anyone. And I think that that would be a worse message to send.

I think that the best way for us to handle this is to keep a poker face, so to speak. We need to keep an eye on this member without letting him know what cards we hold. If he starts to post more and more suspicious successes, then we move in and call the bluff. But it's crucial that we get concrete eveidence before we start making accusations.

Well, I do have to say that your reasoning here is correct. As much as I'd say to delete these so called "fraudulent successes," we don't have quite enough evidence yet to say that these successes are fraudulent. I really don't want to be in a position where we have to back up each other because it seems like we don't trust anyone else on the forum.

We must remain vigilant on not only the abovementioned successes, but others too. I guess we'll have to monitor the situation for now and take action later when it is appropriate.

nowandagain [rockon]

P.S. Nice use of poker terms, I guess you play a fair bit eh?

[rpbluesman]

P.S. Nice use of poker terms, I guess you play a fair bit eh?

Well thank ya mate. I do play quite often. Once I started with "call the bluff" I just kind of needed to keep with the poker terms

[admin]

Hey there!!
The address he posted a success from is no longer active!! Orlando is represented by ICM and Spanky Taylor now it seems.

Orlando Bloom is repped by ICM London and Brillstein-Grey Entertainment. His agent at Spanky Taylor moved to Brillstein-Grey Entertainment ~ 6 months ago.

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[RobinTreksPeru]

all that evidence against a pic that has a signature nothing like the real thing and the only comment from admin is who reps orlando?

choke.

[elmomommyto2]