John Travolta sec-cess

[stumper93]

I get so tired of these arguments as well, so I'm just going to say/ ask this.

I see so many statements on other supposed secretarial celebrities that say "Yes they're always secs, but rarely you might get a real autograph through the mail."

So my question is to these "experts" is:

How would you be able to determine a legit John Travolta autograph sent at the database addresses compared to a secretarial.

And don't come back telling me I believe the secs are real because I have no opinion on the matter. Or don't tell me I need to get it in person. I want an honest answer.

I just want to know how would I exactly be able to determine the difference.

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Nope, it doesn't.

Law. It's crazy.






And I could understand why you would feel the need to comment as such if I were selling these items, but alas, I am not. They are just going to sit around my studio apartment and collect dust. Is that doing you any harm? Not in any way.

I guess I should feel bad for someone who needs to feel superior on the internet. It takes a special person, I guess. I'd be honestly hesitant to ever see you in person. You are probably secretly a lonely, depressed individual. It's OK. You have friends. Just not here.

Do you have any idea how stupid you sound? Maybe this hobby isn't for you. Can't face the fact that experienced collectors, who have been doing this for years, tell you items are secretarial. Then you go around accusing people of not having friends, yet your one the accusing people of feeling "superior on the internet." Get a life dude, have fun with your 7 Travolta secretarial signatures.

[dancingirl1]

Do you have any idea how stupid you sound? Maybe this hobby isn't for you. Can't face the fact that experienced collectors, who have been doing this for years, tell you items are secretarial. Then you go around accusing people of not having friends, yet your one the accusing people of feeling "superior on the internet." Get a life dude, have fun with your 7 Travolta secretarial signatures.

I'm sorry, but THIS! ^

[joe316]

Did you know that telling someone they would cry like a little baby is actually considered "cyber harassment" and is illegal in most states? You probably didn't. Don't worry. Stick with me and you might learn something, kiddo.

I am sure that calling you a complete moron is considered "cyber harassment" and is illegal in most states as well. But since you are probably just some punk teenager you wouldn't even know that the police have better things to do like catch actual criminals and could really care less.

[joe316]

and by the way... why is it always Travolta who ends up getting the most heated/argumentive debates? Why not say, Clint Eastwood, or Robin Williams? Or Sally Field.

I bet that you have all of those actors TTM as well and guess what none of those are actually real. Robin Williams is always SEC, Clint Eastwood has refused to sign for about 20 years for anyone just like Neil Armstrong. Kids these days don't know a thing about doing a little research. When 95/100 people say that an autograph isn't real only a fool would say that percentage is wrong.

[countrynut23]

To CoachK and the other idiots on here,Show someone signing all those "fake" autographs,then everybody will believe you......you all look real stupid running your mouths,with NO proof or hard evidence to back up your claims...GET A REAL LIFE......MORONS!!!

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OK were the morons? For the one millionth time

As coach k has said
Every real educated collector knows this... It has been proven by 3rd party authenticators... and the fact that these TTMs have major differences than his real IP graphs... and just by the obvious logistical issues that make it completley impossible for him to answer the thousands and thousands of fan letters that he gets in such a short amount of time. He would have to quit his acting job and charity work and sell is Florida home in which he spends most of his time, and move to California on a permanent basis.

All he would be doing is checking his email, signing, going to the post office. Somehow magically his mail to California comes back signed when he's out of the country. Hmmm. The secretarial graph looks NOTHING like the graph that is held by a company that holds private signings with him throughout the course of the year. No Travola TTM graph has ever passed PSA/DNA certification and it never will. Let me ask you something, does John Travolta signing 7+ items per person sound realistic to you? When he has private signings where he charges large amounts of money and has a hard time signing IP? Ridiculous.

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dunnellz: Worst. Collector. Ever.

This thread: Worst. Thread. Ever.

Autographs: Fakes 100%. Just compare them to IP autos.

End of story.

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dunnellz: Worst. Collector. Ever.

This thread: Worst. Thread. Ever.

Autographs: Fakes 100%. Just compare them to IP autos.

End of story.

[northvscart]

to the Joe guy-

I dont know if you were trying to insult me, or the OP but either way, as for having autos from all them, I actually dont have Williams, Eastwood, or Field. I was just curious as to why those debates dont have people that wont back down on either side fighting about the authenticity as often, is all.

I have no problem with either side, and dont really have an opinion just wonder why its always Travoltas ttms whos topics get to about 3-4 pages of debates, instead of just kinda letting the people do research and make up their own mind- its been said for years and years, I`m sure any collector that has collected for 6 months + knows Travoltas are widely considered secreterial. Was just wondering why it was nescasary to beat the old dead horse over and over again, when everyones pretty much agreed theyre fake, swore they were real, or just didnt care if theyre real or not, like me after reading 1000 of these threads.