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Re: Wrestling Collectors?

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Personally I dont like the Owen ticket and never have. Doesnt seem right to me.

As for Jericho, I tried him VV during a Fozzy tour in the UK, no dice. As has been mentioned, he signs for VIP'ers so its not a surprise.

And Hogan TTM? No address will ever be worth trying.
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[us] RIP OWEN HART AND ITS LOOK NOT RIGHT
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yeah if the guy wants that much money for the owen hart ticket, he should send it off to be authenticated. i'm partial to it as well.
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There's a photo included in the item description where the ticket and an article was published regarding it in a collectors magazine, any piece that receives that kind of press in a collectors publication has been checked. Like I said before aside from very minor curvature differences, mostly due to the difference in marker type, it looks really similar to an autograph I got at a signing just two months prior to when this was signed. When I found this listing the first thing I did was pull up my picture and then search for other Owen Hart autographs that looked similar to mine and it matches up nicely.

Honestly, I've seen worse examples of 'autographs' posted on this forum that our resident 'expert' (term used lightly) said look legit when they look nothing like authentic signatures. What about the story doesn't sound right? Owen Hart was at that event, that's the actual ticket to the event, and Owen had a great reputation for making time for the fans. Are we going to have to break it down to a point where from now on autographs are only authentic when posting an accompanying photo with them? In that case every autograph anyone has ever posted on this thread is fake unless there was a photo of the poster or a photo of the item being signed.

I agree that if the seller is going to ask the price he is then he should get it authenticated, but the same thing the authenticators are going to do in authenticating it is look at known previously authenticated autographs.
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roulette wrote:There's a photo included in the item description where the ticket and an article was published regarding it in a collectors magazine, any piece that receives that kind of press in a collectors publication has been checked. Like I said before aside from very minor curvature differences, mostly due to the difference in marker type, it looks really similar to an autograph I got at a signing just two months prior to when this was signed. When I found this listing the first thing I did was pull up my picture and then search for other Owen Hart autographs that looked similar to mine and it matches up nicely.

Honestly, I've seen worse examples of 'autographs' posted on this forum that our resident 'expert' (term used lightly) said look legit when they look nothing like authentic signatures. What about the story doesn't sound right? Owen Hart was at that event, that's the actual ticket to the event, and Owen had a great reputation for making time for the fans. Are we going to have to break it down to a point where from now on autographs are only authentic when posting an accompanying photo with them? In that case every autograph anyone has ever posted on this thread is fake unless there was a photo of the poster or a photo of the item being signed.

I agree that if the seller is going to ask the price he is then he should get it authenticated, but the same thing the authenticators are going to do in authenticating it is look at known previously authenticated autographs.
Im not sure if you just worded it badly, but it wasnt an article about the piece, it was an article about deaths in wrestling, and the ticket is only shown as a throwaway "item signed hours before his death". The seller even states it was his own article being published. The magazine likely wouldve done minimal (if any) checks on the sig, because its irrelevant to the piece as a whole.

I dont think you can use the magazine as any proof/reasoning/support that its legit at all.

(Im not being hostile to you by the way, Im just aware that sometimes my typing can come across that way, so putting this just to be safe!)
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roulette wrote:There's a photo included in the item description where the ticket and an article was published regarding it in a collectors magazine, any piece that receives that kind of press in a collectors publication has been checked.
Just would like to make a point on the "it'd must've been checked out to have been published as an article in a magazine" statement. That's not at all true.

Unfortunately in journalism, there are many editors and writers, especially for niche publications, that are willing to try to break a story without proper documentation just to attract new readers to their product.

It's a sad state, but some in the industry I work in won't hesitate to let fact-checking get in the way of the a good story.

Again, I caution anyone on here that would think of spending that type of change without having more than a guy with a ticket stub and a story. There needs to be more documentation to go with an autograph that one is wanting $3,500 for.

For all I know, the autograph could be legit. The story seems to add up, but without proper documentation, you've basically got a used ticket stub that was written on by someone.
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mrmickiejames wrote:
roulette wrote:There's a photo included in the item description where the ticket and an article was published regarding it in a collectors magazine, any piece that receives that kind of press in a collectors publication has been checked.
Im not sure if you just worded it badly, but it wasnt an article about the piece, it was an article about deaths in wrestling, and the ticket is only shown as a throwaway "item signed hours before his death". The seller even states it was his own article being published. The magazine likely wouldve done minimal (if any) checks on the sig, because its irrelevant to the piece as a whole.

I dont think you can use the magazine as any proof/reasoning/support that its legit at all.

(Im not being hostile to you by the way, Im just aware that sometimes my typing can come across that way, so putting this just to be safe!)
Wrong. It was in Autograph Collectors Magazine 2007 (not sure which month) highlighting the value of autographs by dead wrestlers based on how big of a star they were, how available they were regarding autographs, and the uniqueness of the items the autograph is on. They weren't talkin about dollar figure but it's rarity on the market and offered estimated figures base off of previous auctions with that signature.

The guy selling the ticket has been interviewed multiple times by various websites, magazines, and other forms of media with articles aimed towards pro wrestling autograph collectors, and he's the published author of a book called 'Dead Wrestlers, Broken Necks, and The Women Who Screwed Me Over'
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I'm sending to Velvet Sky's PO Box. Does anyone know if she responds through there still?
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i'm almost positive the ticket is real.

i am not sure of the autograph. seems like a pretty easy sig to fake so only the current owner really knows for sure. someone tell him if he passes a polygraph, they will buy it.

i could see it selling for a few hundred maybe 1500 tops at auction if authenticated. personally to me it would be priceless
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