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i have a list of celebs here but i dont know if real or secrectarials or not .in saying that, every photo i have been sent has come back signed or personilise bill clinton sammy hagar slash michael schumacher valentino rossi ringo starr
roger federer evel knievel clint eastwood phil collins al pacino jimmy page eric clapton

The general consensus is -

secretarials

bill clinton
michael schumacher
al pacino
clint eastwood

authentics

phil collins
ringo starr
roger federer

These I dont know.......

sammy hagar slash valentino rossi
evel knievel jimmy page eric clapton

In my opinion, michael schumacher sends authentics

Stamps (fakes) - Jesse McCartney

Secreterial(possibly) - Chris Evans, Lindsay Lohan

BABii_ANG3L wrote:Stamps (fakes) - Jesse McCartney

Secreterial(possibly) - Chris Evans, Lindsay Lohan

the user didnt ask about those though...

& just because Jesse McCartney's autographs are preprints, doesnt mean they are fake. Its his real signature, just preprinted.

Chris Evans is real, I believe just the inscription is secretarial.

Andy316 wrote:The general consensus is -

secretarials

bill clinton

That is completely incorrect. President Clinton signs his books, and anything else sent to him will be signed by an Autopen, not a secretary. In case you didn't know, an Autopen is a signing machine that reproduces the signature of the person.

CDolan02 wrote:

Andy316 wrote:The general consensus is -

secretarials

bill clinton

That is completely incorrect. President Clinton signs his books, and anything else sent to him will be signed by an Autopen, not a secretary. In case you didn't know, an Autopen is a signing machine that reproduces the signature of the person.

I know full well what an autopen is, and seeing as you're a junior moderator, you shouldnt be posting with such an attitude and being so rude.

From what Ive read, all presidents past/present send secretarials or autopens, the fact that I forgot to mention the AP part is of little importance.

Evel Knievel is a tough autograph to obtain. There was a report where Knievel was working at a casino kinda like a meet and greet as you walk into the casino. Anyone who approached him for an autograph was denied and he told them to leave their room numbers at the desk and he would send up autographed pics. all received preprints. The best way to obtain an authentic autograph of his is to purchase his artwork. He is an awesome artist and you can find signed prints of his for a reasonable price. Holly I would love to see what you received from him from florida.

Andy316 wrote:I know full well what an autopen is, and seeing as you're a junior moderator, you shouldnt be posting with such an attitude and being so rude.

From what Ive read, all presidents past/present send secretarials or autopens, the fact that I forgot to mention the AP part is of little importance.

I have an attitude because I informed you on the purpose of a signing machine, not knowing if you were familiar with it?

The only Presidents who sent out secretarial autographs after they left the White House were Lyndon Johnson and Ronald Reagan.

It seems that what you have read is incorrect also. It would be beneficial to check the facts and then check them again before creating an altercation based on false information.

so the general consenses is we really dont know wether they are real or fake or not, we are just going on what we heard from rumors that someone else has said , of course we can tell if its a pp or not but realisticly we are not there when they sign them. so know one really knows. thanks.great argument over somthing that you dont know if it is actually done by that person or not.because you cant prove that. LIVE IN HOPE BE HAPPY WITH WHAT YOU GOT. ! THANKS