Some people on here should STOP telling people their ....

[AllanRickman]

stumper93 You said it perfectly.

I remember the first ever autograph i got was a TTM from Neil Patrick Harris. It was a PP. I was so happy to have gotten it, its a funny autograph too, it says "yours forever, unless i forget my name, Neil Patrick Harris". But when i put it up on another website they described it as 'garbage' and 'scrap paper'. It killed my buzz about getting it. Ok it was a PP but it was a really nice PP and i didn't mind it was a PP that was free.

Living in London, TV actors from the states rarely come here unless they are in a big movie or on stage here. Yet having something i was excited about getting described as scrap and garbage.....

There was a lady on here who i remember told someone that their autograph they got was a PP but they should be happy as it was great pic and it looked great.

[Corriefan]

Yes I agree with Allanrickman. I like to get authentic autographs as well and would rather receive nothing than an autopen, sec, preprint or stamped. But I agree that to say "that is definitely fake" is not always the way. Some stars may sign hurriedly and their sig can vary.

[dancingirl1]

But I agree that to say "that is definitely fake" is not always the way. Some stars may sign hurriedly and their sig can vary.

But some of us CAN tell the difference between a SEC And a real deal. And if it's a PP, I will just post proof to prove to them that it's a PP. That's what I do....

If it looks rushed, I will say it but If it's fake (and I KNOW IT), I will say it as well.

[Corriefan]

Duh. I can mainly tell if it is a sec or PP or the real deal as well you know.

[dancingirl1]

Duh. I can mainly tell if it is a sec or PP or the real deal as well you know.

But that's what you don't understand...This isn't about you! This is about the young teen adults on this forum who can't...VERY GOOD EXAMPLE RIGHT HERE!

http://fanmail.biz/mboard/viewtopic.php?f=146&t=258930

[AllanRickman]

Before even clicking that link on the post before this, i knew where it would lead me.

Secretarial and PP and so on, there is, 99% of the time, evidence of it. Such as other photos or family members of the celeb saying their secs as recently happened with Willie Nelson i think it was, may be wrong on who it was.

Just that fact that two in person autographs can be greatly different, is something i think we should remember before using strong words when saying we think someones autograph is a fake.

I got two autographs from David Haye (boxer) and honestly they look NOTHING alike.

I guess this does show that when you buy a autograph from someone on eBay, there really is no way to know if it is real. PP like the one in the post before this are easy to tell, but if hand done, there really is no way to know. Even with photos of celebs signing the photo you have to be so careful.

I saw a Matt Damon autograph on ebay with a video of him signing it, then rushing inside a studio. When i paused the video when he signed it i could see the one sold on ebay, the autograph started about a inch lower. So the guy obviously faked more of them to make more money, maybe he did get him again on the way out but the video was dishonest.

Unless you were there, if its hand done, its just so hard to tell these days.

[stumper93]

Duh. I can mainly tell if it is a sec or PP or the real deal as well you know.

But that's what you don't understand...This isn't about you! This is about the young teen adults on this forum who can't...VERY GOOD EXAMPLE RIGHT HERE!

http://fanmail.biz/mboard/viewtopic.php?f=146&t=258930

But can't you be a little more understanding to these "young teen adults?" It's amazing they're getting into the hobby! Of course they're not going to want to believe whether or not they're a secretarial or autopen because then they're going to believe every single autograph received through the mail is fake then. And then if they still don't want to "believe" you, then let it go. Just don't respond to it. Heck, I still like to believe some of my signatures are legit even though I know for a fact they're probably secs.

All I see is negativity around here and it's time to be more positive!

[dancingirl1]

But can't you be a little more understanding to these "young teen adults?"

YES, however if I provide PROOF and they STILL deny me and call me names for saying the truth, I WONT be understanding about that. Usually I will post the truth on the thread and then then they will message me and ask me for tips about how to get them an authentic one and I always answer...but I meet users like that. I will be more understanding when THEY become more understanding as well. That is fair.

[Corriefan]

Duh. I can mainly tell if it is a sec or PP or the real deal as well you know.

But that's what you don't understand...This isn't about you! This is about the young teen adults on this forum who can't...VERY GOOD EXAMPLE RIGHT HERE!

http://fanmail.biz/mboard/viewtopic.php?f=146&t=258930

But can't you be a little more understanding to these "young teen adults?" It's amazing they're getting into the hobby! Of course they're not going to want to believe whether or not they're a secretarial or autopen because then they're going to believe every single autograph received through the mail is fake then. And then if they still don't want to "believe" you, then let it go. Just don't respond to it. Heck, I still like to believe some of my signatures are legit even though I know for a fact they're probably secs.

All I see is negativity around here and it's time to be more positive!

Exactly. It is up to them whether they believe you or not.

[dancingirl1]

Exactly. It is up to them whether they believe you or not.

"..I will be more understanding when THEY become more understanding as well..."