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Re: Doris Day success

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vivalakayla wrote:Yeah. I see the difference. Still really sad though either way. Especially if it's an official company/charity. It's better they don't send ANYTHING than something fake.
Yeah, good point too.
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jrott wrote:
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jason1980s wrote:It sounded like the guy knew she would be around the place at the particular time BUT again, the autograph portion of the story doesn't seem to add up. Many collectors know where a celebrity will be so it wouldn't be surprising if he had three photos on hand.

Only thing possible for a reason the signed pictures aren't in the photo op is that he could have had her sign them in the hotel that was mentioned, and left them there to take the photo or he left them in the car.

You'd think he'd want to take one with the photos, to def. prove the ttm aren't fake and since. And since it seems like Doris did spend some time with him, I'm sure she'd be OK with an extra, maybe even suggest to take one.

I still think the ttm are fake and I think the secretary is having fun adding the little squiggles and designs and the names of Doris' dogs.

I will say, too, she looks great in the photo.

Even if they got a picture of her signing the items, you know someone would say something else to try and say their still fake. "The guy made her hold TTM autographs", "It's an old photo, not from the same day", "It's photoshopped" But i agree it would still be very helpful if he did. I'm not saying it's impossible he tried to trick people but logically speaking we don't go to each IP topic and think..hmm i wonder if this is made up. But just because it's Doris Day we take it 100x more seriously

I know this won't matter but just to know what kind of "random" person were talking about.. according to his FB He's been in the United States Air Force for a number of years. So he's not this random creepy hound on the street...If you don't believe me about that.... https://www.facebook.com/rduma1/media_s ... 699&type=3 So i would assume this is more of a legit character witness that you can get. I feel like i'm in court.

When the next person is going to act like a child with their opinion, you better be showing me pictures as well showing me why their fake.

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I do not think anyone here has acted like a child in giving their opinion. I will never base mine one one persons story. I am basing mine strictly on the 3 photos. For me those photo's have been signed by two different hands. Take away the "story" and only study on the photo's, can you really believe the same person signed those 3 photos in the span of a few minutes?
Nothing was said on how long the encounter was. This was in front of her hotel and all we know which is probably the case she signed everything inside(Whether it was before or after the photo, i don't know) but i messaged him and trying to find out more information on how he exactly met up with her. There's no logical reason for him to just randomly post a picture of his photo with Doris 2 years later and try and trick people saying his TTM autographs were IP. He said to his facebook friends that he planned on meeting her, this wasn't a random encounter So of course you would bring something for her to sign, right? So how would it make sense that the photo of his signed items were TTM? I'll let you know if i hear anything else.
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For me, nothing he adds to his story is relevant.
With this Facebook post we have two things to go by, his story and his evidence (the signed photos)
For me, the signed photo's show they were signed by two different hands thus making anything about his story Irrelevant. If i believed the photo's were signed by the same hand, I would have been interested in more details of his story.
It seems like we are looking at this a bit different, you believe his story dismissing the different handwriting. I believe the handwriting. I guess we just agree to disagree. : )
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jrott wrote:For me, nothing he adds to his story is relevant.
With this Facebook post we have two things to go by, his story and his evidence (the signed photos)
For me, the signed photo's show they were signed by two different hands thus making anything about his story Irrelevant. If i believed the photo's were signed by the same hand, I would have been interested in more details of his story.
It seems like we are looking at this a bit different, you believe his story dismissing the different handwriting. I believe the handwriting. I guess we just agree to disagree. : )

I believe he said he also had a TTM signature. Maybe all 3 were not signed that day. If I were lucky enough...and actually I did think about flying out to that hotel several years ago to see if I could see her.
Also what about the calendar her own foundation is auctioning?
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jrott wrote:
BS18 wrote:
jason1980s wrote:It sounded like the guy knew she would be around the place at the particular time BUT again, the autograph portion of the story doesn't seem to add up. Many collectors know where a celebrity will be so it wouldn't be surprising if he had three photos on hand.

Only thing possible for a reason the signed pictures aren't in the photo op is that he could have had her sign them in the hotel that was mentioned, and left them there to take the photo or he left them in the car.

You'd think he'd want to take one with the photos, to def. prove the ttm aren't fake and since. And since it seems like Doris did spend some time with him, I'm sure she'd be OK with an extra, maybe even suggest to take one.

I still think the ttm are fake and I think the secretary is having fun adding the little squiggles and designs and the names of Doris' dogs.

I will say, too, she looks great in the photo.

Even if they got a picture of her signing the items, you know someone would say something else to try and say their still fake. "The guy made her hold TTM autographs", "It's an old photo, not from the same day", "It's photoshopped" But i agree it would still be very helpful if he did. I'm not saying it's impossible he tried to trick people but logically speaking we don't go to each IP topic and think..hmm i wonder if this is made up. But just because it's Doris Day we take it 100x more seriously

I know this won't matter but just to know what kind of "random" person were talking about.. according to his FB He's been in the United States Air Force for a number of years. So he's not this random creepy hound on the street...If you don't believe me about that.... https://www.facebook.com/rduma1/media_s ... 699&type=3 So i would assume this is more of a legit character witness that you can get. I feel like i'm in court.

When the next person is going to act like a child with their opinion, you better be showing me pictures as well showing me why their fake.

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I do not think anyone here has acted like a child in giving their opinion. I will never base mine one one persons story. I am basing mine strictly on the 3 photos. For me those photo's have been signed by two different hands. Take away the "story" and only study on the photo's, can you really believe the same person signed those 3 photos in the span of a few minutes?
It is very plain too see that that the 2 photos here on the bottom are authentic and the top photo is one of those well known secs.. Its different sig too the other two...
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Trevor, that's the point I am making. The facebook post says that all three of these photos were signed at the same time and by DD. We can clearly see they were signed by different people. Since he is not being honest about the 3 photos, i have to question his entire story and the validity of the other 2 regardless of how close they might look to authentic.
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Didn't even notice the autograph differences until now but it definitely looks like two different handwriting samples.

Too bad the autographs even had to come into play. The photo with Doris Day, IMO, is 100 times better than an autograph. That's something that few people have.
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It's obvious that the photos were signed by different people.
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I'm aware that this doesn't help in anyway because everyone that's involved with Doris Day is in a plot of lying to fans, including the old ladies at the foundation that's covering up for her.. but i emailed the foundation and they replied with this:

"Dear ____"

We cannot address rumors circulating around the internet. However, we can tell you that unlike many celebrities, Ms. Day does not employ a staff to handle her mail. Despite the tremendous volume of mail and requests she receives, she enjoys reading her mail and responding to as much of it as she can. (Of course, it's impossible for everyone to receive a response.) All items auctioned off on eBay by the Doris Day Animal Foundation to benefit the animals are signed by Ms. Day.

Hope this answers your question.
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And you expected to receive something like this:?

"Dear ____"

Doris Day considers fan mail a burden and hasn't actually seen a piece of it in years but she employs a staff to fake her autograph to give her fans the impression that she cares. Let's keep this our little secret so we can continue this charade in perpetuity.

Hope this answers your question.


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