Philip Seymour Hoffman autograph fake or real?

[MW1221]

Because PSA is ALWAYS right and the PERFECT sample to use when trying to determine if an autograph is authentic.

Yep, the most trusted company ever. They're never wrong! Nope, never.

More trustworthy than you. Or other 3rd party companies.

Citation needed that PSA is more trustworthy than other third party companies.

JSA, GAI, independent forensic document examiners....

Are you talking out of your ass or can you actually prove that PSA is more trustworthy than all of the above?

[vivalakayla]

Because PSA is ALWAYS right and the PERFECT sample to use when trying to determine if an autograph is authentic.

Yep, the most trusted company ever. They're never wrong! Nope, never.

More trustworthy than you. Or other 3rd party companies.

Citation needed that PSA is more trustworthy than other third party companies.

JSA, GAI, independent forensic document examiners....

Are you talking out of your ass or can you actually prove that PSA is more trustworthy than all of the above?

JSA is good as well. GAI was okay at point in time but has since gone out of business and filed for bankruptcy. (GAI was actually founded by one of the founders of PSA - did you know that?) They were authenticating anything and everything at the end of it which lost a lot of their credibility. If you dont believe me use a thing called Google. Its beenwell known for years now that GAI isnt a good company. But you know everything, right?!

[MW1221]

More trustworthy than you. Or other 3rd party companies.

Citation needed that PSA is more trustworthy than other third party companies.

JSA, GAI, independent forensic document examiners....

Are you talking out of your ass or can you actually prove that PSA is more trustworthy than all of the above?

JSA is good as well. GAI was okay at point in time but has since gone out of business and filed for bankruptcy. They were authenticating anything and everything at the end of it which lost a lot of their credibility. If you dont believe me use a thing called Google. Its beenwell known for years now that GAI isnt a good company. But you know everything, right?!

No, but apparently you do, since you said (and I quote): "[PSA/DNA is] [m]ore trustworthy than...other third party companies."

Which you're yet to prove. Saying one of the 3 other options I listed isn't reputable isn't proving that PSA/DNA is more trustworthy than all other alternatives (including the ones I didn't list), which, again, is the statement YOU made. I never said any of those are more or less reputable than PSA. You, on the other hand, said no other third party company is equally trustworthy or more so than PSA. It's not Google's job to prove your assertion, it's yours. You said it, now back it up.

If you can find a statement I made on the topic that's wrong or needs evidence, feel free to bring it to my attention.

[vivalakayla]

HAHAHAHSHAHAHAHAHA. I had a feeling you would spew back a lengthy novel. So funny. I explained my opinion about the others. I dont have to keep beating a dead horse with you. Let me hear your opinion on PSA, JSA AND GAI. Id loooove to hear it.

[MW1221]

HAHAHAHSHAHAHAHAHA. I had a feeling you would spew back a lengthy novel. So funny. I explained my opinion about the others. I dont have to keep beating a dead horse with you. Let me hear your opinion on PSA, JSA AND GAI. Id loooove to hear it.

I don't have one.

But you're yet to prove your assertion.

And you finally proved my suspicions of your reading levels if the novels you read are only 3 paragraphs long.

[vivalakayla]

HAHAHAHSHAHAHAHAHA. I had a feeling you would spew back a lengthy novel. So funny. I explained my opinion about the others. I dont have to keep beating a dead horse with you. Let me hear your opinion on PSA, JSA AND GAI. Id loooove to hear it.

I don't have one.

But you're yet to prove your assertion.

I never planned on it. Because you know nothing about any of the companies. If you dod you wouldve known about GAI and wouldnt have even listed it in your post in the first place. The fact that you did goes to show you truly do know nothing about this hobby. And its useless to even explain anything to you. Therefore I plan on fully ignoring you from here on out. You have as much credibility as GAI does. Hahah enjoy talking to yourself!

[MW1221]

HAHAHAHSHAHAHAHAHA. I had a feeling you would spew back a lengthy novel. So funny. I explained my opinion about the others. I dont have to keep beating a dead horse with you. Let me hear your opinion on PSA, JSA AND GAI. Id loooove to hear it.

I don't have one.

But you're yet to prove your assertion.

I never planned on it. Because you know nothing about any of the companies. If you dod you wouldve known about GAI and wouldnt have even listed it in your post in the first place. The fact that you did goes to show you truly do know nothing about this hobby. And its useless to even explain anything to you. Therefore I plan on fully ignoring you from here on out. You have as much credibility as GAI does. Hahah enjoy talking to yourself!

You keep bringing up GAI as though I actually said anything about them or was naming companies that I felt were equally/more trustworthy than PSA.

But then again, picture books have more words than my post, which you called a novel, so I suppose I can't blame you. It's not your fault that you read and comprehend at a preschool (or lower) level.

[lalashi485]

Because PSA is ALWAYS right and the PERFECT sample to use when trying to determine if an autograph is authentic.

Yep, the most trusted company ever. They're never wrong! Nope, never.

Nothing is 100% certain, that is, unless I had gotten the autograph from Mr. Hoffman myself. I have heard good and bad things about PSA and JSA so it's a risk either way. I admit that even if it comes back as authentic there will always be a small part of me that has doubts.

[MW1221]

Because PSA is ALWAYS right and the PERFECT sample to use when trying to determine if an autograph is authentic.

Yep, the most trusted company ever. They're never wrong! Nope, never.

Nothing is 100% certain, that is, unless I had gotten the autograph from Mr. Hoffman myself. I have heard good and bad things about PSA and JSA so it's a risk either way. I admit that even if it comes back as authentic there will always be a small part of me that has doubts.

You would honestly be best off just going with their cheaper "quick opinion" service, which you can do with that photo.

With what you read about any third party authenticator (I won't name names lest the idiots on the forum accuse me of comparing their validity when I'm clearly not), you seem to get the same peace of mind either way, only that one's cheaper.

Some people will you that, when buying off eBay, the autograph is only as good as the COA.

That's false.

When buying from any dealer, the autograph is only as good as the return policy.

That's why the UACC Dealers are good--not because they guarantee authenticity, but because they're required to refund your money if it's deemed not authentic.

COAs from any company are just pieces of paper. It's the money back guarantee from the seller that counts.

[lalashi485]

Because PSA is ALWAYS right and the PERFECT sample to use when trying to determine if an autograph is authentic.

Yep, the most trusted company ever. They're never wrong! Nope, never.

Nothing is 100% certain, that is, unless I had gotten the autograph from Mr. Hoffman myself. I have heard good and bad things about PSA and JSA so it's a risk either way. I admit that even if it comes back as authentic there will always be a small part of me that has doubts.

You would honestly be best off just going with their cheaper "quick opinion" service, which you can do with that photo.

With what you read about any third party authenticator (I won't name names lest the idiots on the forum accuse me of comparing their validity when I'm clearly not), you seem to get the same peace of mind either way, only that one's cheaper.

Some people will you that, when buying off eBay, the autograph is only as good as the COA.

That's false.

When buying from any dealer, the autograph is only as good as the return policy.

That's why the UACC Dealers are good--not because they guarantee authenticity, but because they're required to refund your money if it's deemed not authentic.

COAs from any company are just pieces of paper. It's the money back guarantee from the seller that counts.

I wish I had known about the cheaper service but it's too late now. COA's don't do much for me because I know that they can be easily made by anyone with a printer. I've definitely learned my lesson and I wont be making anymore autograph purchases from eBay. The seller has a rather short period of time for returns but I have been on eBay long enough to know that isn't set in stone. If it comes back as a fake I will report them if I have to in order to get my money back.