Philip Seymour Hoffman autograph fake or real?

[renping]

A PSA opinion is better than nothing I suppose! Good luck!

[lalashi485]

A PSA opinion is better than nothing I suppose! Good luck!

Thank you

[MW1221]

Nothing is 100% certain, that is, unless I had gotten the autograph from Mr. Hoffman myself. I have heard good and bad things about PSA and JSA so it's a risk either way. I admit that even if it comes back as authentic there will always be a small part of me that has doubts.

You would honestly be best off just going with their cheaper "quick opinion" service, which you can do with that photo.

With what you read about any third party authenticator (I won't name names lest the idiots on the forum accuse me of comparing their validity when I'm clearly not), you seem to get the same peace of mind either way, only that one's cheaper.

Some people will you that, when buying off eBay, the autograph is only as good as the COA.

That's false.

When buying from any dealer, the autograph is only as good as the return policy.

That's why the UACC Dealers are good--not because they guarantee authenticity, but because they're required to refund your money if it's deemed not authentic.

COAs from any company are just pieces of paper. It's the money back guarantee from the seller that counts.

I wish I had known about the cheaper service but it's too late now. COA's don't do much for me because I know that they can be easily made by anyone with a printer. I've definitely learned my lesson and I wont be making anymore autograph purchases from eBay. The seller has a rather short period of time for returns but I have been on eBay long enough to know that isn't set in stone. If it comes back as a fake I will report them if I have to in order to get my money back.

I've bought a few off eBay and I'd do it again--same with other rare collectibles.

Here's a little trick: Ask the seller every possible question about the item. How they got it, where they got it, why they got it, how many they got, etc.

The frauds will either dodge the questions or refuse to answer at a certain point: "Either you'll buy it or you won't." Even if they start out lying, the amount of questions will eventually annoy them to the point that they quit.

The honest ones will actually answer every single question, right down to what the person was wearing when they signed the item.

As for COAs being able to come from anyone with a printer--the problem with all major third party authentication services that aren't intentionally defrauding people is that they're stretched too thin. An unknown forensic examiner will be more likely to spend more time with the item than a major company that's required to authenticate one item every 3 minutes because of the number of items coming in.

It's not necessarily that they're bad at their jobs, it's that they don't have the time or freedom to be great at their jobs. That's why I said the quick opinion is the best route, because you get a quick opinion either way, only that one is a lot cheaper.

When you pay for the Quick Opinion, you're paying for just that. When you pay for full blown authentication, you're paying for the COA, as that's really the only difference.

But my fingers are crossed for ya, despite everyone else on this forum saying otherwise about my personality.

[lalashi485]

I wish I had known about the cheaper service but it's too late now. COA's don't do much for me because I know that they can be easily made by anyone with a printer. I've definitely learned my lesson and I wont be making anymore autograph purchases from eBay. The seller has a rather short period of time for returns but I have been on eBay long enough to know that isn't set in stone. If it comes back as a fake I will report them if I have to in order to get my money back.

I've bought a few off eBay and I'd do it again--same with other rare collectibles.

Here's a little trick: Ask the seller every possible question about the item. How they got it, where they got it, why they got it, how many they got, etc.

The frauds will either dodge the questions or refuse to answer at a certain point: "Either you'll buy it or you won't." Even if they start out lying, the amount of questions will eventually annoy them to the point that they quit.

The honest ones will actually answer every single question, right down to what the person was wearing when they signed the item.

As for COAs being able to come from anyone with a printer--the problem with all major third party authentication services that aren't intentionally defrauding people is that they're stretched too thin. An unknown forensic examiner will be more likely to spend more time with the item than a major company that's required to authenticate one item every 3 minutes because of the number of items coming in.

It's not necessarily that they're bad at their jobs, it's that they don't have the time or freedom to be great at their jobs. That's why I said the quick opinion is the best route, because you get a quick opinion either way, only that one is a lot cheaper.

When you pay for the Quick Opinion, you're paying for just that. When you pay for full blown authentication, you're paying for the COA, as that's really the only difference.

But my fingers are crossed for ya, despite everyone else on this forum saying otherwise about my personality.

I appreciate all the feedback and advice. I'm still learning and I could definitely use it. I'll update this post once I get the card back.

[lalashi485]

I have an update. Unfortunately, the card was determined to be a fake. I'm so disappointed but I think I always kind of knew this would be the outcome. Now it's time to ask for a refund and report the seller for selling fakes.

I don't know why I didn't see the red flag. This person has a crazy amount of "autographs" from the Hunger Games cast. Aside from that, after close inspection of there listings I realized they are selling Jennifer Lawrence secs as authentic. I seriously feel like a moron.

[MW1221]

I have an update. Unfortunately, the card was determined to be a fake. I'm so disappointed but I think I always kind of knew this would be the outcome. Now it's time to ask for a refund and report the seller for selling fakes.

I don't know why I didn't see the red flag. This person has a crazy amount of "autographs" from the Hunger Games cast. Aside from that, after close inspection of there listings I realized they are selling Jennifer Lawrence secs as authentic. I seriously feel like a moron.

Get your money back?

[lalashi485]

I have an update. Unfortunately, the card was determined to be a fake. I'm so disappointed but I think I always kind of knew this would be the outcome. Now it's time to ask for a refund and report the seller for selling fakes.

I don't know why I didn't see the red flag. This person has a crazy amount of "autographs" from the Hunger Games cast. Aside from that, after close inspection of there listings I realized they are selling Jennifer Lawrence secs as authentic. I seriously feel like a moron.

Get your money back?

Yes, the seller is giving my money back. They acted so surprised but didn't even try to convince me it was real. I guess they felt stupid since they had insisted it would pass authentication from psa or jsa.

[vivalakayla]

I have an update. Unfortunately, the card was determined to be a fake. I'm so disappointed but I think I always kind of knew this would be the outcome. Now it's time to ask for a refund and report the seller for selling fakes.

I don't know why I didn't see the red flag. This person has a crazy amount of "autographs" from the Hunger Games cast. Aside from that, after close inspection of there listings I realized they are selling Jennifer Lawrence secs as authentic. I seriously feel like a moron.

Get your money back?

Yes, the seller is giving my money back. They acted so surprised but didn't even try to convince me it was real. I guess they felt stupid since they had insisted it would pass authentication from psa or jsa.

Are they paying the $20 you paid for the authentication? I would definitely leave them feedback stating it didn't pass authentication like they guaranteed.

[lalashi485]

Are they paying the $20 you paid for the authentication? I would definitely leave them feedback stating it didn't pass authentication like they guaranteed.

They don't want to and I don't know if ebay would make them. I plan on reporting them for selling fakes once I get my money back.

[vivalakayla]

Are they paying the $20 you paid for the authentication? I would definitely leave them feedback stating it didn't pass authentication like they guaranteed.

They don't want to and I don't know if ebay would make them. I plan on reporting them for selling fakes once I get my money back.

I would try to see if they will. They guaranteed it would pass, it didn't so they should pay it.