Remember 9-11-01

[R.S.V.P]

Please don't feel offended, but all those annual returning 9/11 stories, documentaries, movies, interviews, etc. do really bug me.

People like to forget that an average of 300 people are dying in Iraq every day, thousands of people (mostly kids) die in Africa every day because of hunger and war.

Terror isn't knew - we had the first terrorists when Gaius Julius Caesar was assasinated by Servilius Casca, Brutus and 60 more men on March 15, 44 B.C.

Of course it's good to remember your loved ones but there's no need to make an entertainment show out of this attack. And that's exactly what the US media and the US goverment does out of it. 9/11 is used as a doctrine by the US goverment and the US media to justify the absolute and unrecoverable errors the Bush administration have made over the years.

Instead of building the Freedom Tower that is going to be even higher (1776 ft., 541 metres) than WTC 1 and WTC 2 people should have been more respectful and should have build a park. It's horrible and macabre to build up a new skyscraper on the grounds of WTC1 and WTC2 where around 3000 people have left their lives.

However, you can never ever fight terrorism. All you can do is try to avoid it.

Best,
Stephan

[TheCollector]

hey... I was ashamed of my school when we had no kind of memorial for the 9/11 attacks the UK doesnt seem to care about this and its a disgrace. It should be made a worldwide public holiday.

R-I-P to those who died and my thoughts go out to the families.

Hi superdave

That does seem strange A lot of schools around where I live did pay their respects by holding the minute silence, and they were also encouraged to talk about what the day meant.

It seems that the british government thinks that just because we're not american and werent directly affected by the attacks it means we dont care. We should recognise what happened on an international scale.

I don't think this is true at all. We have all been directly affected by what happened on September 11, 2001. As well as by the atrocoties which have followed around the globe. Citizens of 50 countries perished in the terrorist acts of 9/11 including 67 British. Of course the majority of 2,740 were US citizens, but the balance of 236 were non-US.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-Americ ... 01_Attacks

I am not sure the best way of marking the occasion would be to have a worldwide holiday as the matter should basically be a private one for the families directly involved. This year has received more media coverage than usual as it is obviously the 5th anniversary.

In my office yesterday I had the full coverage on tv (Sky News), which I found was handled sensibly and with respect. The coverage was live and lasted for the whole 5 - 6 hours of the service.

And just to finish, I have to disagree with you Stephan on your last point (surprise, surprise!). I don't think anyone can deal with terrorism by avoiding it

Anyway, my greatest respects to all those who lost their lives on that day, and to their families and friends.

Ian

[R.S.V.P]

And just to finish, I have to disagree with you Stephan on your last point (surprise, surprise!). I don't think anyone can deal with terrorism by avoiding it

Ian

Dear Ian,

at least you know where I'm coming from (surprise, surprise... I've learnt a new saying ). What I wanted to express is that you can not fight terrorism. President Bush said "We need to fight a war against terrorism". But when does this war end? Never ever since terrorism has always excisted in history and will always be there in future. I get the feeling that when we talk about terrorism most people would think of 9/11 but forget about the terrorism that has been with us for more than 2000 years (IRA, RAF, Olympic Games 1972 in Munich, Caesar, etc. pp.).

Best,
Stephan

[x Pirates-Fan x]

Our school didn't do anything either and I think we should have even though no one knew anyone it dosn't mean we don't have to care! My family was quite lucky as my dad was in one of the buildings on a buisness trip exactly 1 week before and that seems very close to me!

x Pirates-Fan x

[TheMailman]

I knew that a freedom tower was going there but didn't know it was going to be taller. What will it be used for as I cannot imagine in a million years that workers will decide to work up there. I think adding a new building to the skyline will entise the evil out there

A beautiful park would have been ideal and wonderful, but no they want a new building stood in the position of where all those people past. It will be completed in 2010 apparently. It does feel weird without the 2 buildings being there. Take a look at these photos:

[elmomommyto2]

And here I was under the impression that those who choose to observe 9-11 as a day of remembrance weren't making a political statement about the war on Iraq...but remembering the completely innocent people that were killed...sheesh ! Why do we pause to learn about the Holocaust, 9-11, the Civil War, WWI & WWII and other historical events? For remembrance, to learn from the situation, to mourn the innocent lives lost, that's why. Not to support President Bush! If that was indeed the case, then very few people would have reflected on the tragedy of 9-11. While people die every day, everywhere, not a single one of those people who were killed asked to die that day, nor did they volunteer to join an army to fight terrorism, nor did they even know what was going to happen to them that day. They died at the hands of cowards who very blindly support terrorist networks. That's what sets the events of 9-11 aside from soliders that die in wars. To turn your face and mind away from history is merely being in denial that it's ever happened and dooming us for history to repeat itself.

Remember, reflect, learn and may the families of 9-11 victims find peace .

[gregorysmith]

Please don't feel offended, but all those annual returning 9/11 stories, documentaries, movies, interviews, etc. do really bug me.

People like to forget that an average of 300 people are dying in Iraq every day, thousands of people (mostly kids) die in Africa every day because of hunger and war.

Terror isn't knew - we had the first terrorists when Gaius Julius Caesar was assasinated by Servilius Casca, Brutus and 60 more men on March 15, 44 B.C.

Of course it's good to remember your loved ones but there's no need to make an entertainment show out of this attack. And that's exactly what the US media and the US goverment does out of it. 9/11 is used as a doctrine by the US goverment and the US media to justify the absolute and unrecoverable errors the Bush administration have made over the years.

Instead of building the Freedom Tower that is going to be even higher (1776 ft., 541 metres) than WTC 1 and WTC 2 people should have been more respectful and should have build a park. It's horrible and macabre to build up a new skyscraper on the grounds of WTC1 and WTC2 where around 3000 people have left their lives.

However, you can never ever fight terrorism. All you can do is try to avoid it.

Best,
Stephan

As a New Yorker myself I know I don't like to look at the skyline and see nothing there anymore I think building somthing else is exactly what we should be doing. There will always be a memorial and we will always remember. Your thing says you are from germany, I think if you grew up seeing the wtc's on that skyline all the time and now there is nothing, it feels empty and not the same, I think if you knew how it felt when it comes to that then you'd know that building somthing in place of it is deffinetley the right way to go. Maybe you are from here idk but all im saying is that it is deffinetley not in anyway "horrible" to have towers in memorial of the wtc. and also on your last statement about terrorism, you can't avoid it, it's out there and obviously when we don't deal with it look what happens.


I thought this thread could be a way to remember people and reflect on that tragic day. maybe there should be another thread on "complaining about 9-11" sorry, but come on now.

[TheMailman]

I know, it looks empty from the photos but putting a new one in, in my opinion, is asking for evil that is out there to come towards NY again. Not in a billion years should that terrible event repeat. . .

9/11

[gregorysmith]

Yeah I agree another event would be horrible, but we don't back down either were not going to go run and hide were gunna build an even bigger and better tower this time.

[R.S.V.P]

(...)not a single one of those people who were killed asked to die that day, nor did they volunteer to join an army to fight terrorism(...)

Let me correct you on this:
Every soldier of the US Army joined the Army because it's been his/her own will. They were never forced to sign the contract and when someone is working as a soldier nomatter where it's an occupational hazard that you may get killed at work. Policemen, Firemen, Riggers and hundreds of other jobs have the same occupational hazard and they all know of the risk to get killed while practising their work.

Needless to say that 9/11 has been a tragedy but Europeans (except for the British folks) get tired of the fact that the Bush administration is abusing 9/11 as a doctrine to justify their war in Iraq.

Best,
Stephan