tony curtis ttm/secretarial?

[vespasian]

i believe and so do many others that his ttm is secretarial..they do not match his in person examples...opinions on this appreciated....

in person example




ttm example

[jasonw]

http://www.fanmail.biz/mboard/viewtopic ... 202&hilit=
I thought you believed his TTM are authentic?
Jason

[vespasian]

i did at first.....but as i started to buy his graph on a fairly regular basis i noticed other discrepancies also the dealer who had the argument with me on this subject was in a difficult position as i pointed out that other uacc members were also selling the ttm as genuine and i think he didnt want to criticise fellow members for not knowing they were sellin secretarials as genuine without concrete proof...also i regard myself more knowledgeable now than then .....with tony curtis autographs ........so basically ive changed my mind ..i noticed also jason you dont say you disagree with this assumption?

[jasonw]

Hi,
I believe you know more regarding Tony Curtis's autograph then me. Based on the two images you have provided, I have to say that they do not match and therefor Tony Curtis's TTM are secretarials.
Jason

[vespasian]

yes i had 2 wonderfull signed pics from him ttm and also michael caine too

[autoland]

This is very intresting, as I received mine from his home address in Henderson.

And on one of my index cards, was signed "To Who from Tony Curtis and Dale" Dale is my real name, and it sounded like a very Tony Curtis thing to write.

I also received: 2 8x10 signed photos, one one of them he said "one for each eye" there again another very Tony Curtis comment to make.

Having said that, how do we know just how far these, secretarials will go. Maybe we will have to question, all "successes" be it from agents, or any other address, or even via venue, all are open to being faked :mad: :mad:

Boy what a life. This must make us think BIG TIME.

[vespasian]

dont worry autoland there are plenty out there who sign authentically

[autoland]

dont worry autoland there are plenty out there who sign authentically

Thanks SO much {thumb2} I'm sure that is just one of the pitfalls of expecting authentics TTM, there has always been a fair amount of rubbish, and some good.

[Johnny's Fan]

Well I doubt I'm deemed much of an expert on this, but I'll have a go anyway.

From what I've seen on this *site* [hence why I can only compare from what I've seen on here] I would say he sends out authentic autographs. In person autographs must surely differ in looks than ones he can sign at his leisure.

The "Tony" looks pretty samey to me. The pen used on the first one is thicker so the letters look closer together, so the little swirl in the "o" can't be seen as well, whereas on the TTM one, which is a bigger signature in a less bold pen, you can see.

The "Curtis" is too squashed for me to be able to really see it clearly.

I'm not sure how much we can blame on secretaries really. People's signatures also change over time. Mine has changed how many times I don't know. Circumstances when the item was being signed could also have an effect on what it looks like.

But that's just my opinion.

[vespasian]

circumstances on where and how they are signed has nothing to do with it my friend
the ttm ones all look the same ..and the in person always looks the same...but both are different........i have a in -person signed pic from the autographica show that was held a couple of months back....and the person who got it said he was sat at a table taking his time signing them?you never under any circumstances get a situation where you have two different autographs from two different locations all of the time ....the only conclusion from this is thats one has got to be secretarial :neutral: