Hello let me start off by saying i found everyone arguing over weather palmer sends ap's or not very annoying so in less than 1 hour i did my own research and used scans from this site to setle it once and for all.
First variation
Second variation
Third Variation
Fourth variation
Fifth variation
viewtopic.php?t=173180 (photo from this one is also a example of the fith variation but the photo wouldnt format right when uploaded)
If any one didnt want me to use there scans im very sorry
I have been in contact with his personal assistant (an amazing person!) and when my personalized special request shows up, I'll be happy to post and compare.
tinkerbarb wrote:I have been in contact with his personal assistant (an amazing person!) and when my personalized special request shows up, I'll be happy to post and compare.
i hope it turns out to be real im just saying that most are ap
I don't see why we all have to argue over whether its an AP or not. We should all just be able to post our successes without any arguments. Can we all just agree to stop arguing over this. Just let everybody think what they want to think.
total autopens. This is not news to folks that collect sports autographs and actually quite common knowledge. Go to other autograph boards and it is always a topic of conversation. Seems like a few folks got some real ones before when they sent to the "The Masters" locker room during the week of the Masters, but it is almost a guarantee you will get an autopen when you send to Palmer. I am one of the folks that wanted to believe they were real when I was new to the game, but not a chance. Bummer, but it is what it is.
Arnold was one of the first autopens that I got collecting...back in 2007. He's probably been sending autopens out longer than that. I seem to have the 4th variation. I don't see what the big deal is all about though...do you really expect someone like him to send out authentics?
I like the job done on discovering the five different autopens. I would like to make a couple of points.
1. What can you do? Outside of meeting the person or by chance him/her signing a legit one once in awhile through the mail, if the person mailing them back out only deals in autopens, your choices are pretty limited. Accept the autopen for what it is, or don't send to begin with.
2. My only complaint is when the autopen is clearly an autopen. Even if it is one, I'd much rather have one that isn't obvious, this way we can all speculate (much like everyone does with secretarial v real). Everyone here wants to think that their letter was read by the star/celebrity they sent it to, and it is disappointing to discover that chances are your letter was maybe read by someone working in the office, and the picture was never even seen by the star.
3. I personally have no problem with people saying whether or not the stuff I put on the board is real or not. Autopens and preprints are easier to detect, and its always fun to watch the debate over whether the autograph is really the star or staff (and unless you see someone sign it, you're still speculating, unless someone like Clint Eastwood comes out and says he doesn't even look at his fanmail) but I can see where some people can be upset by getting unsolicited opinions. Someone may just be thankful they got something back, others may want an opinion, some are collectors for the true sake of collecting, and others are trying to make a quick buck. You don't know what the person's motivation is for posting, so to think they want to be told that what they have isn't real, or may not be real is assuming quite a bit. If the person posts a note saying everything is welcome, by all means post away. However, if they are new or don't post often, or even seem extremely excited, you may want to soften your blow you want to land on them.
4. Can we all agree that we need to go back and beat up the person who invented the autopen I'm just sayin'.
5. I personally love the information on this board, and what each person can and does bring to the table, but let's keep everything in perspective. This shouldn't be taken too seriously, and should be seen as a cool hobby, a chance to get a little closer to a favorite star, a nice way to leave something for you kids, a neat way to add things to a charitable auction, or whatever. If people are taking this too seriously, something is wrong. Have fun, enjoy this and enjoy life.
6. That's about it.
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I'm just sayin'.