SARAH PALIN Signed Books!! Must-Read!!

[CubsFanKEC1982]

Well, after being given the run-around most of the day, the receptionist at HarperCollins finally put me thru to the Editor of 'America By Heart'. I can't remember what his name was, but he admitted that the signatures were autopenned. He said this happens a lot in the publishing industry. He said he's "sorry" and that it "is mis-leading", and that the "only way to get an authentic signature is to attend one of the book-signing events or to buy the limited edition, leather-bound signed book". What a jerk!! And what a horrible company!!

Did they say whether it was their decision to do this or the book's writer?

They should really pull those copies off the shelves. Though not against the law to sale autopens as such, I admit it is misleading.

Also, strikes me as odd that the "signed first edition" copies of Going Rogue appear to have been legit hand-signed.

I wonder why this book was different..

[Ink&Bones]

Well, after being given the run-around most of the day, the receptionist at HarperCollins finally put me thru to the Editor of 'America By Heart'. I can't remember what his name was, but he admitted that the signatures were autopenned. He said this happens a lot in the publishing industry. He said he's "sorry" and that it "is mis-leading", and that the "only way to get an authentic signature is to attend one of the book-signing events or to buy the limited edition, leather-bound signed book". What a jerk!! And what a horrible company!!

Did they say whether it was their decision to do this or the book's writer?

They should really pull those copies off the shelves. Though not against the law to sale autopens as such, I admit it is misleading.

Also, strikes me as odd that the "signed first edition" copies of Going Rogue appear to have been legit hand-signed.

I wonder why this book was different..

He didn't say whose idea it was, but since Sarah has used the autopen before, with her signed bookplates, and he did say it was "commmon in the industry" to use autopens, it was probably a mutaul thing.

[RobertaRight]

They can probably pass them of as "signed" since the autopen does actually apply a signature, which by definition means it signs the book.

It is like having it signed by my grandma and call it OK, because it is signed and that´s all it says. It does not matter, right, because it does not specify who signed it?
You are right, though. There were also "signed edition CDs" from different artists which of course were not signed, just had signatures print on the booklet.

But here it seems they purposely advertise something in a highly misleading way in order to trick customers, and that I simply consider a cheat.

And I personally do not give a damn if they claim that it is common thing to do in their business and they are professional liars. Whatever. You pay more for signed book, and they should not be able to say it is your problem because you assume the book was signed by the author and not sth or somebody else.

[MW1221]

the tobacco companies should put "smoking cigarettes won't kill you" instead of "smoking cigarettes may cause cancer." because there are truths in both of them... because cancer kills you, not cigarettes.

when you order a signed book, you aren't thinking its not hand signed. i mean whats the point of paying more for something that wasn't even personally signed? it should be at no added cost then. you are assuming since you are paying more for something, that there's added value to the item. in this case, there is NO ADDED VALUE.

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Once a person passes, the autopen stops running. Due to their legal authenticity, they become sought after after that point. Preprints and secretarials are always worthless. Autopens become more and more valuable as the years go on.

And Jaffer, I did say that I do NOT agree with what they're doing, but it doesn't constitue fraud.

Look up the original purpose of the "Long Pen"...

[RobertaRight]

Once a person passes, the autopen stops running. Due to their legal authenticity, they become sought after after that point.

How is it with this legal authenticity actually? I am just curious. You cannot exactly replace person´s signature by autopen on a contract or sth. Or can you?

That would be bigger issue for identity theft than fear of signing index cards I just don´t get it

Technically, for an autopen there was one original signature and the other are "copies" done by machine. PP also had one original and the rest are copies done by machine. Seems worthless all the same

[MW1221]

Once a person passes, the autopen stops running. Due to their legal authenticity, they become sought after after that point.

How is it with this legal authenticity actually? I am just curious. You cannot exactly replace person´s signature by autopen on a contract or sth. Or can you?

That would be bigger issue for identity theft than fear of signing index cards I just don´t get it

Yes. You can. Autopens can sign legal documents. Of course, I think there's a little more to it than sticking a contract into the machine and putting someone else's signature on it...

[RobertaRight]

Ok, I did not know.

However, I find it awkward. I thought personal signature is irreplacable. But I am no lawyer. Thanks

[ultimateager]

the tobacco companies should put "smoking cigarettes won't kill you" instead of "smoking cigarettes may cause cancer." because there are truths in both of them... because cancer kills you, not cigarettes.

when you order a signed book, you aren't thinking its not hand signed. i mean whats the point of paying more for something that wasn't even personally signed? it should be at no added cost then. you are assuming since you are paying more for something, that there's added value to the item. in this case, there is NO ADDED VALUE.

http://youtu.be/ueywqUBW3oM[/youtube]

Once a person passes, the autopen stops running. Due to their legal authenticity, they become sought after after that point. Preprints and secretarials are always worthless. Autopens become more and more valuable as the years go on.
And Jaffer, I did say that I do NOT agree with what they're doing, but it doesn't constitue fraud.

Look up the original purpose of the "Long Pen"...

if you have watched "Pawn Stars" you would know that this is incorrect... because after time only the collectors want the items and collectors DO NOT put out $$$ for autopenned signatures.

big FAIL 4 u

[Nicksportsautographs]

the tobacco companies should put "smoking cigarettes won't kill you" instead of "smoking cigarettes may cause cancer." because there are truths in both of them... because cancer kills you, not cigarettes.

when you order a signed book, you aren't thinking its not hand signed. i mean whats the point of paying more for something that wasn't even personally signed? it should be at no added cost then. you are assuming since you are paying more for something, that there's added value to the item. in this case, there is NO ADDED VALUE.

http://youtu.be/ueywqUBW3oM[/youtube]

Once a person passes, the autopen stops running. Due to their legal authenticity, they become sought after after that point. Preprints and secretarials are always worthless. Autopens become more and more valuable as the years go on.

And Jaffer, I did say that I do NOT agree with what they're doing, but it doesn't constitue fraud.

Look up the original purpose of the "Long Pen"...

You are completely wrong. Auto-pen's have zero value to people who actually collect autographs.

[Ryco11757]

the tobacco companies should put "smoking cigarettes won't kill you" instead of "smoking cigarettes may cause cancer." because there are truths in both of them... because cancer kills you, not cigarettes.

when you order a signed book, you aren't thinking its not hand signed. i mean whats the point of paying more for something that wasn't even personally signed? it should be at no added cost then. you are assuming since you are paying more for something, that there's added value to the item. in this case, there is NO ADDED VALUE.

http://youtu.be/ueywqUBW3oM[/youtube]

Once a person passes, the autopen stops running. Due to their legal authenticity, they become sought after after that point. Preprints and secretarials are always worthless. Autopens become more and more valuable as the years go on.

And Jaffer, I did say that I do NOT agree with what they're doing, but it doesn't constitue fraud.

Look up the original purpose of the "Long Pen"...

You are completely wrong. Auto-pen's have zero value to people who actually collect autographs.

I agree. Everybody here seems to know that Auto-pen are worthless. Not valuable whatsoever